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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 04:31:43 PM » |
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check it now i think. Are you gonna get 3 streets from a lower pair?
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 04:37:20 PM » |
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i like to make it 700-800 here if he calls we can check behind on turn and keep some pot control
if we check now he is likely to lead turn and river
What if he calls then leads the turn for 2k? It looks like a float but what if he's got it? Do you want that decision this early? This is exactly why Alex suggests checking. We can easily be bluffed on this board and a good oppo knows that. He has us covered and can put us to the test using his stack. If we decide to get stubborn and call his turn lead where are we when he shoves? Definitely prefer the check. We've got position so use it to our advantage. Don't give the reigns over to him. if he leads the turn then i have to go from reads GL Sir |
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 04:47:54 PM » |
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check it now i think. Are you gonna get 3 streets from a lower pair?
Check back turn and call river if he bets. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 04:50:27 PM » |
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check it now i think. Are you gonna get 3 streets from a lower pair?
Check back turn and call river if he bets. that is what i was saying. I would also value bet river (depending upon card) if he checked again. |
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 04:51:51 PM » |
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check it now i think. Are you gonna get 3 streets from a lower pair?
Check back turn and call river if he bets. that is what i was saying. I would also value bet river (depending upon card) if he checked again. ya, obv |
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 05:24:15 PM » |
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Ok I checked behind, as someone said i didn't think i would get 3 streets from a lower PP which is pretty much what i believed he had given his behaviour so far. Hoped he would believe I had AK/AQ kinda hand and would therefore get another bet on the river. River  He bets 3500...... |
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 05:33:01 PM » |
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Simple question but from the orbit and a bit you've played with him, does he look decent?
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 05:36:13 PM » |
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Hard to say he had a Sunderland top on?
Didn't really see him involved too much to make any great assumption on him but thought he was certainly competent.
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 05:38:04 PM » |
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errr call and wince i think.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 06:19:16 PM » |
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errr call and wince i think.
errrrrrrrrrrrr?  ?? massive over bet to the pot and your wanting to put half your stack in with a call on the turn? if you think your ahead shove if not sure fold you have 500tc in pot why do you want to go broke? so shove or fold |
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 06:31:03 PM » |
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errr call and wince i think.
errrrrrrrrrrrr? ?? massive over bet to the pot and your wanting to put half your stack in with a call on the turn? if you think your ahead shove if not sure fold you have 500tc in pot why do you want to go broke? so shove or fold We're on the river mate. Snap call. No thinking required the way the action has gone. |
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2009, 06:47:46 PM » |
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errr call and wince i think.
errrrrrrrrrrrr? ?? massive over bet to the pot and your wanting to put half your stack in with a call on the turn? if you think your ahead shove if not sure fold you have 500tc in pot why do you want to go broke? so shove or fold lolwat - follow the action it is also not a massive overbet either it is less than the pot |
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2009, 06:50:48 PM » |
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Wow tough spot. FWIW I play it the same way. Without reads I fold....
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 07:18:07 PM » |
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I am checking back as i can get bluffed easily by betting and can get 2 streets off a wider range when im ahead by checking back.
Yeah I kinda like this line as well. Problem with checking the flop is that we can look like a J when we give him action on a brick turn. So not sure river value is guaranteed. Also, if we know this is an easy bluffing opportunity and villain prob has no J aren't we losing lots of value not betting the flop? That said I think villain's snap pre from the sb makes Alex's line more desirable. Villain prob has a pair including premium but checking the turn commits you to calling the river imo. |
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2009, 07:57:06 PM » |
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errr call and wince i think.
errrrrrrrrrrrr? ?? massive over bet to the pot and your wanting to put half your stack in with a call on the turn? if you think your ahead shove if not sure fold you have 500tc in pot why do you want to go broke? so shove or fold We're on the river mate. Snap call. No thinking required the way the action has gone. sorry i missed the turn post |
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