Evilpie's get off your lazy arse and get back to the gym diaries

[Woodsey]

Does this mean you will no longer be accepting bowls of chips from me at DTD ?

Liar, you don't give up chips that easily............

[Maxriddles]

Good luck with this I have been in a very similar position to you as you make your OP, in fact I was probably a good bit further gone at one point. I have made a lot of progress particularly in the last 12 months through 4 to 5 cardio sessions a week and two weights sessions. An anke injury has restricted the cardio I can do but usually it's spinning classes, body combat, and cross trainer. My weight has came down by 2 stone in the last 12 months (nearly six stone since my oh fuck I'm massive moment) but the change in body shape has been significant and my body fat has improved quite significantly. Although I still feel there is work to be done most folk think I'm now in pretty good shape and I definitely feel fit.

I am sure you can do this and once you get a few weeks in the gym under your belt you will start getting the buzz off it again as well as feeling better. This and seeing visible results will give you all the motivation you will need to keep it up and then step it up.

As for poker, I now play a lot less and really just play one night a week now and even then it may just be a couple of online MTTs.

Look forward to following your diary.

[Claw75]

good luck I too think the thread needs pics btw

[pokefast]

What does a spinning class entail?

[GreekStein]

What does a spinning class entail?

cycling

[pokefast]

What does a spinning class entail?

cycling

Are you levelling me again?

[EvilPie]

Looking forward to this thread as i do alot of training myself i'll be interested to see your diet.

Are you heavier now than a few years back?

Good luck with this you seem very determined.

Thanks for the interest.

I've just got home and weighed myself and I'm 15st 13lb. This is yet to be confirmed as my scales  may not be 100% accurate.

When I got in to my training at the age of about 27 my starting weight was around 18st 4lb. I went on to a similar plan to the one I'm doing now and dropped to about 15st 10lb before my body fat had reduced significantly and I started to grow again.

At my peak I was around 16st 4lb with about 12% body fat so very lean. I am 6' 4" so this isn't too heavy by any means.

So I am only 5lb lighter now than when I stopped training. I am by no means fat, just fatter than I want to be. It shouldn't take long to lose the excess body fat but obviously making the gains will be the tough part.

I have never been overly concerned about my weight. It's more about how you look in the mirror and also measurements. I'll be writing a little bit about this shortly as measurements are how I will guage my achievements.

Unfortunately despite trying I can't find old measurements.

I can remember a few. Biceps 18", chest 48", waist 32"

Sigh....... the good old days.....

[EvilPie]

What does a spinning class entail?

cycling

Are you levelling me again?

Unseated high resistance cycling.

Very tough.

[Claw75]

Biceps 18

phwoar. love a bit of bicep, me.

[pokefast]

What does a spinning class entail?

cycling

Are you levelling me again?

Unseated high resistance cycling.

Very tough.

Sounds very tough!

[StuartHopkin]

Curry night tomorrow though still yeah?

[  ] I have a dog

[X] Its a good job I have other friends

No mate curry is off for the foreseeable future.

Lol

Might be for you mate!
I had one on Sunday.

[StuartHopkin]

Alcohol - Well I'm afraid it has to go. Alcohol is the work of the devil when you're training and although it's good fun it just ain't part of this plan.

Norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr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[kinboshi]

Step 4 - Supplements

Now it's possible I may be making a mistake here but I've decided to go straight back to my old supplement plan from when I was big.

This may be a mistake in the short term because my body probably won't need it all until I'm more muscular again. Anything my body doesn't need though it will just expel so all I'm doing is pissing money away, I'm not harming my health.

I've decided to do it this way because what I need right now is a routine. If I make my supplements part of this routine I think everything else will fall in to place much easier.

There are literally hundreds of supplement providers out there and choosing one that stands out from the rest is nigh on impossible. The gym I used to train at supplied a particular brand and that worked before so I'll stick to the same brand now. If anyone wants to know what the brand is PM me and I'll tell you. I don't want to actively encourage this brand over any other because it's the only one I've tried so can't give any kind of comparison.

So what have a bought:-

Meal replacement shakes

Flapjacks

Protein bars

Vitamin/mineral tablets

Amino acid tablets

Total cost £230. It's an expensive game this!!

These are just supplements and will form part of my overall diet. You will see where they fit in when I post about my daily diet later.

I have a little bit of thinking to do about that because things are slightly different to my old routine because of training times.

Matt, will chat to you about the vitamins and other supplements.

[EvilPie]

Tale of the tape

Well the tape don't lie and that's what this is all about so here goes:-

Weight - 15st 13lb

Chest - 45

Waist - 38

Neck - 17.5

Thigh - 25

Calf - 16.5

Bicep - 16.5

Forearm - 12.5

Well everything is significantly smaller than before with the exception of the waistline.

If I'm honest I'm a bit shocked by the waist measurement. I expected about 36 because that's what my jeans are but 38!!!!! That's terrible for me and just helps the motivation for this.

When my waist was 32" I still had to have 36" jeans so that I could get them over my legs. That's one of the things that I want to aim for again.

I will be honest. This is shocking for me but it in no way gets me down. It would've got me down if I hadn't already decided to do something about it  but I'm just more determined to get back where I know I can be.

[EvilPie]

Step 4 - Supplements

Now it's possible I may be making a mistake here but I've decided to go straight back to my old supplement plan from when I was big.

This may be a mistake in the short term because my body probably won't need it all until I'm more muscular again. Anything my body doesn't need though it will just expel so all I'm doing is pissing money away, I'm not harming my health.

I've decided to do it this way because what I need right now is a routine. If I make my supplements part of this routine I think everything else will fall in to place much easier.

There are literally hundreds of supplement providers out there and choosing one that stands out from the rest is nigh on impossible. The gym I used to train at supplied a particular brand and that worked before so I'll stick to the same brand now. If anyone wants to know what the brand is PM me and I'll tell you. I don't want to actively encourage this brand over any other because it's the only one I've tried so can't give any kind of comparison.

So what have a bought:-

Meal replacement shakes

Flapjacks

Protein bars

Vitamin/mineral tablets

Amino acid tablets

Total cost £230. It's an expensive game this!!

These are just supplements and will form part of my overall diet. You will see where they fit in when I post about my daily diet later.

I have a little bit of thinking to do about that because things are slightly different to my old routine because of training times.

Matt, will chat to you about the vitamins and other supplements.

I'm pretty sure we're just going to disagree on this but always willing to talk. It's all down to opinion but I know what's worked for me in the past.

Btw. I know this looks a lot but it's over 2 months worth. Bulk buy discounts and all that.