Evilpie's get off your lazy arse and get back to the gym diaries

[boldie]

Won't your leg session be a lot more difficult if you do spin the same day? Just asking as I do 2 sessions on a Saturday (one 1 hour rowing session and then back later for an hour of Arms and Abs) and do an hours cycling on Sunday. Tried to combine this with legs later on in the day/early evening but found my legs are just jelly so there's no point even trying it so had to move my leg session to another day.

[GreekStein]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

[Maxriddles]

Won't your leg session be a lot more difficult if you do spin the same day? Just asking as I do 2 sessions on a Saturday (one 1 hour rowing session and then back later for an hour of Arms and Abs) and do an hours cycling on Sunday. Tried to combine this with legs later on in the day/early evening but found my legs are just jelly so there's no point even trying it so had to move my leg session to another day.

To be honest I've not actually tried it yet so I'll report back on that one. I quite often do two spin classes in a row so I figure if I do spin then my legs session my legs should be okay. I know it's normaly best to do your weight training before your cardio but I reckon this would be the best way to fit both in on the same day.

[boldie]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

How long do spin classes ussually take? Might just be because I do an hour on the bike (approx 34k and resistance quite high, or at least intervals are quite high) that a leg session is not an option for me.

[GreekStein]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

How long do spin classes ussually take? Might just be because I do an hour on the bike (approx 34k and resistance quite high, or at least intervals are quite high) that a leg session is not an option for me.

Spin sessions are normally 30-45 minutes and very intense.

[boldie]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

How long do spin classes ussually take? Might just be because I do an hour on the bike (approx 34k and resistance quite high, or at least intervals are quite high) that a leg session is not an option for me.

Spin sessions are normally 30-45 minutes and very intense.

Yeah knew it was intense..30-45 minutes of that loud shitty music? F that. I'll do my hour on the bike, thanks

[GreekStein]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

How long do spin classes ussually take? Might just be because I do an hour on the bike (approx 34k and resistance quite high, or at least intervals are quite high) that a leg session is not an option for me.

surprised your legs even reach the pedals

Spin sessions are normally 30-45 minutes and very intense.

Yeah knew it was intense..30-45 minutes of that loud shitty music? F that. I'll do my hour on the bike, thanks

[boldie]

Meh, when I used to do legs it was always after spinning - just make sure you stretch properly before and after. You'll be fine.

How long do spin classes ussually take? Might just be because I do an hour on the bike (approx 34k and resistance quite high, or at least intervals are quite high) that a leg session is not an option for me.

Spin sessions are normally 30-45 minutes and very intense.

Yeah knew it was intense..30-45 minutes of that loud shitty music? F that. I'll do my hour on the bike, thanks

surprised your legs even reach the pedals

they have special kiddy bikes in my gym

[EvilPie]

I've made the decision to have today off.

This cold doesn't want to shift and it's best not to spread germs where possible I suppose.

I think the hardest thing with training with a cold is that you aren't breathing properly so don't get enough oxygen.

Couple that with your body feeling generally deflated and you're in for a bad session.

So I now have a few days to get better or I have no choice but to train a bit ill.

Thursday is deadline day. That would leave me 4 days to get 4 sessions in. My recovery is reasonable now so that will be possible if not ideal.

Hopefully things will improve tomorrow or wednesday giving me a bit of leeway for getting my sessions in.

The good news of all this is that even though I'm ill I still genuinely want to train. I'm not looking for excuses whereas previously this would've been a great reason to not train.

I'm actually looking for reason to be able to train rather than to not train and I'm really happy about that. Maybe there's hope that this will work out.....

[kinboshi]

I'm a big girl's blouse.

FYP

[EvilPie]

I'm a big girl's blouse.

FYP

Sigh.....

Fair enuff I s'pose.

[paulhouk03]

How important do you think having a routine, eating and sleeping wise.

Also do you meal plan?

[EvilPie]

How important do you think having a routine, eating and sleeping wise.

Also do you meal plan?

I think having a routine is essential if you want to do this sort of thing seriously.

Eating and sleeping are more important than the actual training in my opinion. Training takes half an hour and tears your muscles. Eating and sleeping repairs those muscles and that takes much longer.

Unfortunately at the moment I don't have a good routine or meal plan. I used to do it all meticulously weighing food out to the nearest gram to get exactly the right amount of calories from carbs, protein and fats that I thought I needed.

Now it's more of a random approach based on my knowledge from what I have done previously.

At some stage I'll hopefully get serious again. If I do I'll start noting everything on here. It's quite interesting to see just how much food you consume when you train seriously.

It's not easy to take on 5500 calories per day in good quality nutrition. You can't possibly do it without careful planning and execution.

[boldie]

It's amazing how your attitude to calories changes when you start working out. I remember my induction at the gym (they weigh you, check for bodyfat etc.) and the guy said I needed to take in 3200 cal a day just to keep going. I just though "What? Are you nuts? All the media says that I need 2500 cal and everything more will mean I'm piling on the weight!" (Which admittedly I was anyways) I knew nothing about calorie intake other than what you read about in the "We'll all be obese soon" articles in the press.

Still trying to lose the last half an inch of fat at the moment (not an awful lot left, yippeee) and then I'll start looking at calorie intake more seriously but could never imagine myself taking in 5500 calories a day, it just seems mental...especially if you have to plan it..just soo much effort and dedication required when doing that.

Could you take us through your average days diet, Matt?

[EvilPie]

I assume you want to know the average days diet when I was training properly?

My diet at the moment isn't really impressive. 4 weetabix for breakfast, protein shake about 11, about 200g chicken breast for lunch, perhaps a protein shake in the afternoon when I train, 200g chicken or lean minced steak for dinner, maybe a snack of some sorts for supper.

When I was training it was something along the lines of the following. I've got it all written down somewhere but this is about right:

7.00am - Breakfast. 2 whole eggs and 6 egg whites scrambled on 2 x wholemeal pitta breads. + vitamin supps and amino acid tabs.

9.30am - Protein shake

11.00am - Flapjack bar

12.30 - Lunch. 225g chicken breast with some kind of pickle for taste + amino acid tabs.

2.30pm - Protein bar

4.30 - Pre training. Protein shake mixed with a cup of oatmeal.

6.30 - After training. Protein shake.

7.30 - Dinner. 225g lean mince, turkey or chicken + random veg + vitamin supps & amino acid tabs.

9.30 - Supper. 4 whole eggs on 1 x wholemeal pitta bread

It's 9 separate meals ranging between 18 and 35g of protein per meal for a daily intake of approximately 1g per lb of bodyweight.

There were a few extra flapjack bars thrown in there somewhere but can't remember exactly where. They were just snacks really to make up the calories. Total was 4 per day.

Calories is about 5500 total. Not easy without supplementation.

I'd love to get back in to something similar again. It took time to sort but at the time I had more energy and more spare time than ever. I thrived on 4 to 5 hours sleep a night and felt brilliant.

Bring a new girlfriend in to the equation and suddenly you find butter in the friidge and bread instead of pittas. The srambled egg whites become whole eggs made with butter (yum yum) and the pittas become buttered bread. It's all downhill from there.