George2Loose
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« on: November 19, 2009, 06:50:03 PM » |
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OK some of the talk re Henry has tilted me to be honest.
Fans are fickle. How can you call a cheat?
Picture this. Your club team are about to get relegated. You need to score. The ball goes to th far post. it's handled by your star player who crosses and GOAL! You're staying up
Would u really accept a reply?
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 06:58:56 PM » |
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Ireland were very unlucky last night, but what Henry did was hardly the most dishonourable thing you have ever seen. In fact you see it every week up and down the country, footballers simply doing what they can to help their team.
It is a complete overreaction as there was a lot at stake. The Irish asking for a replay is a bit embarrassing if you ask me and complete unrealistic.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 07:02:04 PM » |
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its quite simple - bring in the technology such as they have in about 95% of the other sports so that critical decisions can be challenged. People who cheat then know that anything they do during the game that is against the rules could well be spotted in the replay and they run the risk of being caught and punished on the field of play.
Some players may well still try and gain an advantage by cheating but with more chance of being caught and your punishment could cause the game to go against you i reckon that more players would think twice about doing anything deliberate.
To be fair i don't think what Henry did was pre-meditated and deliberate even though it has cost my team a place in the world cup, it happened in the spur of the moment and was instinct more than anything - however after the ball went into the back of the net he knew what had happened was against the rules and the goal shouldn't have stood - allowing the managers one challenge per half (and additional one in extra time) would dramatically reduce incidents like last nights and then at least even if we would have lost on penalties and least we could hold our hands up and say "we gave it our best shot but at least it was fair and honest"
With Sepp Blatter constantly beating the "fair play" drum it will be interesting to hear his comments on last night
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 07:06:27 PM » |
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its quite simple - bring in the technology such as they have in about 95% of the other sports so that critical decisions can be challenged. People who cheat then know that anything they do during the game that is against the rules could well be spotted in the replay and they run the risk of being caught and punished on the field of play.
Some players may well still try and gain an advantage by cheating but with more chance of being caught and your punishment could cause the game to go against you i reckon that more players would think twice about doing anything deliberate.
To be fair i don't think what Henry did was pre-meditated and deliberate even though it has cost my team a place in the world cup, it happened in the spur of the moment and was instinct more than anything - however after the ball went into the back of the net he knew what had happened was against the rules and the goal shouldn't have stood - allowing the managers one challenge per half (and additional one in extra time) would dramatically reduce incidents like last nights and then at least even if we would have lost on penalties and least we could hold our hands up and say "we gave it our best shot but at least it was fair and honest"
With Sepp Blatter constantly beating the "fair play" drum it will be interesting to hear his comments on last night
dont like the 1 challenge rule first minute of a half joe bloggs acidently hand balls in pen box ref misses it but it challenged by oppo team and pen is given then for the rest of the half joe bloggs team can cheat as much as they like as long as ref doesnt catch them 2 incorrect challenges a half is much better
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 07:06:44 PM » |
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I can understand the natural reaction or instinct of a player would be to stick there arm out and keep it in , but the way Henry keeps it in and then almost caresses(sp?) on to his foot to cross it in makes it cheating in my book.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 07:11:26 PM » |
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OK obviously they are not going to get a replay.
That said blatant cheating should not be allowed in any sport, and FIFA should take notice and do something about it.
It is ludicrous that players can attempt to cheat in a sport with no repercussions for there actions.
Ngog's blatant dive for Liverpool also springs to mind.
At least Rugby had the decency to deal with there highly publicised cheating in a way that will deter it happening again. (the so called blood incident)
Football should be leading the way, not living in the dark ages.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 07:14:32 PM » |
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Play to the whistle.. there all screaming and shouting before the balls in the back of the net... clear the danger then harrass the referee!
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 07:36:02 PM » |
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George2Loose
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 07:53:05 PM » |
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No one's really answered the original question
Would u take the goal or take the moral higher ground cos your player "cheated"
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 07:55:55 PM » |
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No one's really answered the original question
Would u take the goal or take the moral higher ground cos your player "cheated"
get in tehre my son wohoooooooooooooooooooo what a player
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 07:58:19 PM » |
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No one's really answered the original question
Would u take the goal or take the moral higher ground cos your player "cheated"
At least i answered your other Q about how can Henry be called a cheat.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 07:58:43 PM » |
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If I was the manager, I would instruct my team to refuse to play on until the ref asks Henry if he hand balled it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 08:13:54 PM » |
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you can dress it up anyway you like. he's a cheating scumbag.
and what is most annoying about him is this holier than fucking thou image he likes to cultivate.
i actually know of no other sport where cheating is tolerated so freely. Dean Richards tried it in rugby, and has lost his livliehood. Henry has actually been rewarded for it
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 08:21:40 PM » |
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No doubt he cheated don't know how that's even debatable since he blatantly used his hand after it hit his arm.
I don't know why they insist on not using technology,there should be 3 challenges a game imo this would hardly slow the game down and is a must imo,but nothing ireland can do here but be gutted and move on,although henry should get a 6 game ban thus missing all but the final (i think) if they got there.Pretty sure everyone could think of situations where there club and country has been screwed over by cheating/dodgy refereeing etc.
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