Greyhound Racing Thread

[scotty2hatty]

Hello Jenny, and Chicago!

[BorntoBubble]

Hello Jenny, and Chicago!

Missed what has happened but see chicago is into 6/1!

Boom lets go!

[Omm]

Hello Jenny, and Chicago!

Missed what has happened but see chicago is into 6/1!

Boom lets go!

Some great racing last night, I thought Roxholme Dream and Chicago were quite impressive, Romantic Rambo ran a fantastic back straight and Racenight Jenny came through very strong. Also thought Billy's Bullet done well. Millwards Teddy was disappointing and so was Touch Tackle for me. My biggest upset was Airmount Paco, for the second day running a dog has cost me a lot of money (Ayamzamodel day before), hopefully the dog is ok as it did look as if something happened mid race.
Think if your on Rambo and Chicago there is a great chance of getting into the first four, Roxholme Dream is a worthy fav, think it might have done the fastest time last night.

Henlow Derby tonight, Leamaniegh Turbo tonight, is currently Evens so at 6/4 we have some value.

[Omm]

Total love gate relationship with the dogs, If Turbo clears t3 at the first he leads and in with a chance, he doesn't clear t3 and wasn't good enough to recover. 3rd day in a row where 1 dog does me for a chunk. Need to start laying like Arbboy.

[arbboy]

just got in been out all night but clear inside bias tonight at henlow.

[arbboy]

decent rail/mid bias at sheff this morning on bags.

[bobby1]

I love reading back thru this thread and it's good to see so many people having a chance to get some top notch tips if they wanted to follow  or just enjoy watching some racing each night.

Arb, Scotty and Omm, it shines thru in the thread how much you love dog racing. What got you into dog racing initially and have you ever owned any decent dogs/won any decent races?


 

[arbboy]

I love reading back thru this thread and it's good to see so many people having a chance to get some top notch tips if they wanted to follow  or just enjoy watching some racing each night.

Arb, Scotty and Omm, it shines thru in the thread how much you love dog racing. What got you into dog racing initially and have you ever owned any decent dogs/won any decent races?


 

Never ever owned a dog.  I got into it via punting generally.  My best mate in my early 20s from school loved punting and we used to go horse racing a lot in midlands (Leics/Huntington/towcester) when i was at uni pre betfair obviously.  Then we decided to go dog racing at pboro and Milton Keynes in the late 90s two or three times a week and i really loved the dogs 10 times more than the horses.  

The rings are 10 layers deep midweek at milton keynes with serious cash flying around and i just loved the game (day job was a trainee chartered accountant which was boring to say the least - 4 year prior to the move to 365 to change career).  I wanted to be Gary Wiltshire or Del Burrows (MK big 2 on course layers).  I loved watching them operate in the ring at MK they were proper charactrer and fearless (when they were winning you knew it as the cigars and becks came out for Del and Wiltshire would just lay anything if he was carrying.  Half the nights i went there i just spent the whole night watching them operate in a lively betting ring ahead of the racing itself (obviously i was punting as well)

Looking back i suppose 15 years later i have got there albeit laying bets on bf rather than in a betting ring.   When i moved to Canbet from 365 in 2004 i used to go to Pompey dogs (like MK now no longer and punt my tits off on a friday/saturday night every week in 2003/4) and then realised it was relatively easy to even beat 130/40% books on the dogs just because most of the layers were pretty clueless.  I was usually 8/10 pints deep most nights and still making it pay from them.

This was the main man at pompey dogs who did all the tissues http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ian-kilsby/26/b84/a51  (albeit to 140% in 5 dog races) but one night he got fucked off with all the other layers just following him so he shut up shop and came with £10k in readies to punt every race and watch the other clueless mugs try and form a market with no knowledge at all.  Was one of the funniest nights of my life punting.  He was a serious layer at Pompey and would lay punters fortunes with no betfair to guide him or any ability to hedge as the other layers would never take his hedging business.  Incredible to believe but we had huge edges over 140% markets in 5 runner dog races back in the day.

[arbboy]

For the casual punter i really think the edges you can have on dogs now with firms pricing up early races are bigger than virtually any other sport if you are following the right judges.  Scotty and Omm prove this week in week out on this fred.  It's impossible to have these edges on early prices on horses and football imo.  The hard bit is getting £100s and £500s on which is why i don't bother going through the cards the night before like scotty and omm do.  Fair play to them both they are different class as they have proved on here month after month.  Everything they back goes off shorter.  If you bet in £20 and £50s though there isn't a better product to invest your cash in at the early prices.  Scotty and Omm prove this week in week out.  I deal in bigger volumes so have to operate on the machine 5 mins from the off as there is no market before that as it's impossible to get my volumes on at the ep's.

[bobby1]

I love reading back thru this thread and it's good to see so many people having a chance to get some top notch tips if they wanted to follow  or just enjoy watching some racing each night.

Arb, Scotty and Omm, it shines thru in the thread how much you love dog racing. What got you into dog racing initially and have you ever owned any decent dogs/won any decent races?


 

Never ever owned a dog.  I got into it via punting generally.  My best mate in my early 20s from school loved punting and we used to go horse racing a lot in midlands (Leics/Huntington/towcester) when i was at uni pre betfair obviously.  Then we decided to go dog racing at pboro and Milton Keynes in the late 90s two or three times a week and i really loved the dogs 10 times more than the horses.  The rings are 10 layers deep midweek at milton keynes with serious cash flying around and i just loved the game (day job was a trainee chartered accountant which was boring to say the least - 4 year prior to the move to 365 to change career).  I wanted to be Gary Wiltshire or Del Burrows (MK big 2 on course layers).  I loved watching them operate in the ring at MK they were proper charactrer and fearless (when they were winning you knew it as the cigars and becks came out for Del and Wiltshire would just lay anything if he was carrying.  Half the nights i went there i just spent the whole night watching them operate in a lively betting ring ahead of the racing itself (obviously i was punting as well)  Looking back i suppose 15 years later i have got there albeit laying bets on bf rather than in a betting ring.   When i moved to Canbet from 365 in 2004 i used to go to Pompey dogs (like MK now no longer and punt my tits off on a friday/saturday night every week in 2003/4) and then realised it was relatively easy to even beat 130/40% books on the dogs just because most of the layers were pretty clueless.  I was usually 8/10 pints deep most nights and still making it pay from them.

That sounds fairly similar to me, used to be Owlerton 2-3 nights a week for 16 years old. Owlerton at weekends and on a big race night used to be brill in the ring. I would be having my fivers and tenners and just loved watching all the decent money changing hands. Used to work in the betting shop in those days so got to know a good few punters and ended up getting a bit of card marking from one or two of them when I went. Had a good few nights of walking home in the rain skint tho but still enjoyed the spectacle of watching the dogs race even without a bet. Family now live over the road from Owlerton so still nip in a few times a year when back in Sheffield. Same faces are still there too tho we are all older and fatter now.

Owned a few dogs in syndicates down the years and had a few OR runners, we made a final of a decent comp at Newcastle when it was still Brough Park. I often read this thread after racing or day(s) later and the value you guys find is tremendous, think your point re beating the books is spot on. I doubt any firm has a full time employee now that follows greyhounds so the available tissues are going to be used by most firms and not even looked at that closely.

[arbboy]

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[Omm]

I love reading back thru this thread and it's good to see so many people having a chance to get some top notch tips if they wanted to follow  or just enjoy watching some racing each night.

Arb, Scotty and Omm, it shines thru in the thread how much you love dog racing. What got you into dog racing initially and have you ever owned any decent dogs/won any decent races?


 

Never ever owned a dog.  I got into it via punting generally.  My best mate in my early 20s from school loved punting and we used to go horse racing a lot in midlands (Leics/Huntington/towcester) when i was at uni pre betfair obviously.  Then we decided to go dog racing at pboro and Milton Keynes in the late 90s two or three times a week and i really loved the dogs 10 times more than the horses.  The rings are 10 layers deep midweek at milton keynes with serious cash flying around and i just loved the game (day job was a trainee chartered accountant which was boring to say the least - 4 year prior to the move to 365 to change career).  I wanted to be Gary Wiltshire or Del Burrows (MK big 2 on course layers).  I loved watching them operate in the ring at MK they were proper charactrer and fearless (when they were winning you knew it as the cigars and becks came out for Del and Wiltshire would just lay anything if he was carrying.  Half the nights i went there i just spent the whole night watching them operate in a lively betting ring ahead of the racing itself (obviously i was punting as well)  Looking back i suppose 15 years later i have got there albeit laying bets on bf rather than in a betting ring.   When i moved to Canbet from 365 in 2004 i used to go to Pompey dogs (like MK now no longer and punt my tits off on a friday/saturday night every week in 2003/4) and then realised it was relatively easy to even beat 130/40% books on the dogs just because most of the layers were pretty clueless.  I was usually 8/10 pints deep most nights and still making it pay from them.

That sounds fairly similar to me, used to be Owlerton 2-3 nights a week for 16 years old. Owlerton at weekends and on a big race night used to be brill in the ring. I would be having my fivers and tenners and just loved watching all the decent money changing hands. Used to work in the betting shop in those days so got to know a good few punters and ended up getting a bit of card marking from one or two of them when I went. Had a good few nights of walking home in the rain skint tho but still enjoyed the spectacle of watching the dogs race even without a bet. Family now live over the road from Owlerton so still nip in a few times a year when back in Sheffield. Same faces are still there too tho we are all older and fatter now.

Owned a few dogs in syndicates down the years and had a few OR runners, we made a final of a decent comp at Newcastle when it was still Brough Park. I often read this thread after racing or day(s) later and the value you guys find is tremendous, think your point re beating the books is spot on. I doubt any firm has a full time employee now that follows greyhounds so the available tissues are going to be used by most firms and not even looked at that closely.

Thanks for the compliments guys. Those of us that love dogs usually started while we where young, it sounds like all our stories are very similar. My local track was Catford went as much as it was on, even got a job there but never took it as the money was awful. Part owed a dog called "Under the Table" apt name as the syndicate was the gov of a pub and a few regs. Life stuff took over for a number of years, especially when Catford closed. If I'm totally honest TFT has got me into sport betting and this thread (Scotty in particular) has given me a passion for dogs again. Being ill for the last two years has meant I have time to focus on both of these and as I love dogs anyway that's where I concentrate my own energy and follow others for other things. I must admit I look at things in two ways (I Don't I have a regular income I can only have a fixed bankroll as the missus and kids need the rest) so I'm always looking at the early prices (usually the day before) and usually just open races, after a while you can pretty much tell if something is over priced, if it is I'll put a larger than normal bet with the intention of laying most back near the off for a freeroll (the gambler in me normally leaves a bit for a bigger win), ante post or bigger meetings I'll have a go at the form and look at some other good judges, if my opinion is the same then I'll have a bet and usually put it up here. Of course there are a few people who I follow blind like Scotty and a couple of others, overall from dogs i can happily so that I'm making enough to keep a wife and three children happy. This will probably all change as soon as I can put bets on online, however I'm not greedy, I'm taking only what I need, hopefully it will ensure my own accounts last longer, not sure I would have the same appetite for it if I had to so what Redarmi has to do with account and such. Must say my biggest surprise is how some of these dogs come to be priced up, b364 have committed to early prices and they usually are not far off, although even with them you can find dogs that go off odds on but they are giving 7/4 early doors. But some of the othe firms are a gold mine with early prices. All of this is a real passion of mine, I love it, no better feeling than leaning with the dog when it comes to the line, I get just as excited watching on telly as I do at the track, although there is also the heart break when you thnk your on a good thing and it gets bundled out the first bend. Emotional sport but love it all the same, suppose I should start incorporating what Arbboy does if I want to get he bankroll up.

[Kmac84]

Dog syndicate?  Get in cheapish! 

A guy I speak to regularly at the bookies on lunch is pretty sharp with the dags, he has 2 in training with Jimmy Fenwick. 

I love watching the greyhounds but up here we don't have much action these days with only Shawfield on the go and Billy King has ruined over there.  5 dog handicaps when the racing is on unless its coming upto Scottish Derby time. 

I used to get took along to the dogs as a kid with my old man.  Back then at the age of 7 or 8 I was allowed £2 a race. 

My old fella owned a taxi and the guy who done a shift on it for him had 4 or 5 dogs that used to go fapping with at Corbywood.  I remember one time going through when I was about 15 I'd got a coupon up the day before so thought I was loaded with my £170 or so.  Back then at 15 that was a load of cash.  Anyway on the way through, Jim tells me not to back any his dogs as they're not trying.  I was in the ring and the prices go up and I'm talking to a few of the old boys,  now at the time I didn't realise I could be giving away info I seen one of the old boys back Jim's dog it was 7/1 and I kind of sniggeredand said that one won't win mate its my Da's mates and its not trying a leg, and he turns round and says that's funny cos I have 2 on its outside and they're not trying either.  So I sticks £30 on Jim's dog at 7/1.  Poor Jim's face when it won, I'l never forget it.  I was rather chirpy on the way back to Glasgow; he wasn't even happy I won. 

There's an old timer who bets with us at lunch he's in his 70's and some of the stories he has about coups not landind and some of the dodges at have gone on down the years are brilliant to hear.   

I like to do a lucky 15 on the TV cards and I do one most days when working, obviously always looking for winners but I try and find 2 decent shots @ 2/1 or bigger and if they win its a free roll with 2 livelier selections. 

[scotty2hatty]

My stories are far from exciting, I'll maybe flick something up earlier.

Dogs are on Sky tonight and I've been all day, as I am tonight, so basically only had a look at the final. Can see there being inside bunching so I've went to the outside for my pick - I initially had it down as Zircon in 6 (think someone in the RP put it up too) but now I've switched to Swansalona Diva in T5. Whilst not a flyer early she should have the beating of those around her and be best placed to take advantage of inside dramas.

Worth a 5er @ 10/1.

[Omm]

My stories are far from exciting, I'll maybe flick something up earlier.

Dogs are on Sky tonight and I've been all day, as I am tonight, so basically only had a look at the final. Can see there being inside bunching so I've went to the outside for my pick - I initially had it down as Zircon in 6 (think someone in the RP put it up too) but now I've switched to Swansalona Diva in T5. Whilst not a flyer early she should have the beating of those around her and be best placed to take advantage of inside dramas.

Worth a 5er @ 10/1.

Bigger on bf later?