The GUKPT Champion of Champions Event thread

[TightEnd]

Can anyone tell me what time the £200 starts tonight and the structure?  I can't find it anywhere which makes me think they will struggle for runners.

Fri 4 Dec at 8.00 pm  £ 200 + 20 No Limit Hold'em     6000 Starting chips. 

Luton regulars are expecting 70-80, based on 120+ being there tomorrow and the normal Fri night traffic

[AlrightJack]

Can anyone tell me what time the £200 starts tonight and the structure?  I can't find it anywhere which makes me think they will struggle for runners.

Fri 4 Dec at 8.00 pm  £ 200 + 20 No Limit Hold'em     6000 Starting chips. 

Luton regulars are expecting 70-80, based on 120+ being there tomorrow and the normal Fri night traffic

It is being run using the gukpt 1 day side event structure.

[AlrightJack]

meh, the Vic is overrated.

dunno whether it's standards are the same as before or since ive been to dtd it just seems much worse.

What has this got to do with the Vic? This thread is about Luton.

Yeah meant to post on the whinge thread and clicked this by mistake. nvm i'll live.

So regardless of whether it was on this thread or the whinge thread, it was basically just an unprovoked slagging off of the Vic?

[luther101]

Mmmmm - 6k for £200!!!         ......       and is it any wonder why the 'smart money' will be heading for DTD this weekend?

[GreekStein]

meh, the Vic is overrated.

dunno whether it's standards are the same as before or since ive been to dtd it just seems much worse.

What has this got to do with the Vic? This thread is about Luton.

Yeah meant to post on the whinge thread and clicked this by mistake. nvm i'll live.

So regardless of whether it was on this thread or the whinge thread, it was basically just an unprovoked slagging off of the Vic?

Provoked by poor experiences I've had at the Vic.

Anyway, if a mod could move to the whinge thread that would be appreciated. Rly wasn't meant for here.

[AlrightJack]

Mmmmm - 6k for £200!!!         ......       and is it any wonder why the 'smart money' will be heading for DTD this weekend?

It's the same as at all gukpt events. It's not all about starting stacks, its the structure as a whole. Usually people are quite complimentary about the structures on the gukpt and they have not changed, so why all the negativity?

[AlrightJack]

meh, the Vic is overrated.

dunno whether it's standards are the same as before or since ive been to dtd it just seems much worse.

What has this got to do with the Vic? This thread is about Luton.

Yeah meant to post on the whinge thread and clicked this by mistake. nvm i'll live.

So regardless of whether it was on this thread or the whinge thread, it was basically just an unprovoked slagging off of the Vic?

Provoked by poor experiences I've had at the Vic.

Anyway, if a mod could move to the whinge thread that would be appreciated. Rly wasn't meant for here.

Then perhaps it would bemore constructive to elaborate, rather than just make sweeoing statements.

[TightEnd]

and, Luther, the thing has to end on one night (most likely starting late too). I personally don't have a problem with 6000 with a GUKPT side structure.

Remember also, before people say it, that many want a quick-ish strucutre and/or not too many starting chips rather than old rocks like me sitting there til 400-800 unless I find Aces before that

[GreekStein]

meh, the Vic is overrated.

dunno whether it's standards are the same as before or since ive been to dtd it just seems much worse.

What has this got to do with the Vic? This thread is about Luton.

Yeah meant to post on the whinge thread and clicked this by mistake. nvm i'll live.

So regardless of whether it was on this thread or the whinge thread, it was basically just an unprovoked slagging off of the Vic?

Provoked by poor experiences I've had at the Vic.

Anyway, if a mod could move to the whinge thread that would be appreciated. Rly wasn't meant for here.

Then perhaps it would bemore constructive to elaborate, rather than just make sweeoing statements.

Guy friend of mine went in with his girlfriend, goes up to desk in cardroom and could not have been replied to more rudely by whoever was behind the desk. His mrs was a bit upset - they ended up both not playing poker and leaving pretty quickly. Made me look a bit of a twat when I was the one who advised them to go there.

I know it wouldn't have been yourself who responded to them like this but from my experiences in the Vic it doesn't sound out of character for two of the people I've seen in the cardroom. Face like a bulldog chewing a wasp who seemingly are preparing for a theatreland role as 'the guy who hates life'. Sure you have an idea of who I mean.

[luther101]

and, Luther, the thing has to end on one night (most likely starting late too). I personally don't have a problem with 6000 with a GUKPT side structure.

Remember also, before people say it, that many want a quick-ish strucutre and/or not too many starting chips rather than old rocks like me sitting there til 400-800 unless I find Aces before that

I too prefer to have plenty of chips (enough to make a 'recovery', rather than one beat/mistake, and out you go!) - I just think that 6k for two hundred sovs isn't at all 'attractive'     ....        especially to the smaller/non pro players in the run up to Xmas, in the midst of an economic crisis.

As for 'getting it done and dusted' nice and early - this is easily achievable even with a larger starting stack size through earlier/bigger antes, without changing a comp into a crapshoot.

The turnouts have demonstrated that (apart from the non-existent marketing) the entry prices of the Festival's side events have been pitched too high to attract the 'ordinary' punters      .....      and they've hardly been brimming over with the pros either!   

[Lucky]

and, Luther, the thing has to end on one night (most likely starting late too). I personally don't have a problem with 6000 with a GUKPT side structure.

Remember also, before people say it, that many want a quick-ish strucutre and/or not too many starting chips rather than old rocks like me sitting there til 400-800 unless I find Aces before that

I too prefer to have plenty of chips (enough to make a 'recovery', rather than one beat/mistake, and out you go!) - I just think that 6k for two hundred sovs isn't at all 'attractive'     ....        especially to the smaller/non pro players in the run up to Xmas, in the midst of an economic crisis.

As for 'getting it done and dusted' nice and early - this is easily achievable even with a larger starting stack size through earlier/bigger antes, without changing a comp into a crapshoot.

The turnouts have demonstrated that (apart from the non-existent marketing) the entry prices of the Festival's side events have been pitched too high to attract the 'ordinary' punters      .....      and they've hardly been brimming over with the pros either!   

I take it you wont be there tonight then Paul?

[luther101]

and, Luther, the thing has to end on one night (most likely starting late too). I personally don't have a problem with 6000 with a GUKPT side structure.

Remember also, before people say it, that many want a quick-ish strucutre and/or not too many starting chips rather than old rocks like me sitting there til 400-800 unless I find Aces before that

I too prefer to have plenty of chips (enough to make a 'recovery', rather than one beat/mistake, and out you go!) - I just think that 6k for two hundred sovs isn't at all 'attractive'     ....        especially to the smaller/non pro players in the run up to Xmas, in the midst of an economic crisis.

As for 'getting it done and dusted' nice and early - this is easily achievable even with a larger starting stack size through earlier/bigger antes, without changing a comp into a crapshoot.

The turnouts have demonstrated that (apart from the non-existent marketing) the entry prices of the Festival's side events have been pitched too high to attract the 'ordinary' punters      .....      and they've hardly been brimming over with the pros either!   

I take it you wont be there tonight then Paul?

Not on your Nelly, Alan - I play with my own money (not Barclaycard's) and tbh I tend to enter comps that suit me, not the provider   ....     and 6k for £200 doesn't appeal much.

[AlexMartin]

Mmmmm - 6k for £200!!!         ......       and is it any wonder why the 'smart money' will be heading for DTD this weekend?

u got 3k for a 1k event at the wsope and it was one of the best structures iv played in a very long time (25/25 level start).

gukpt structures always have loads of play and better players just adjust to the structure. Stick someone like rookie in a 10k deepstack with a 1hour clock and he'll be just as happy/effective as in a 200 rebuy with 20 min levels (probably happier).

dubai,i reckon there is almost no real dead wood in these things as it is (15% of field has no hope i guess, 10% have a significant edge and the rest make up the numbers/have a shot on their day id guess)  and no added money/ value. unless ur flush/have no regard for broll mgmt/sat in who's gonna stump up this money?  the majority of players wont outlay that much money in these kind of comps when there is much better value elsewhere. a 500 rebuy would get cancelled with this level of promotion/exposure/value imo.

[luther101]

Mmmmm - 6k for £200!!!         ......       and is it any wonder why the 'smart money' will be heading for DTD this weekend?

u got 3k for a 1k event at the wsope and it was one of the best structures iv played in a very long time (25/25 level start).

gukpt structures always have loads of play and better players just adjust to the structure. Stick someone like rookie in a 10k deepstack with a 1hour clock and he'll be just as happy/effective as in a 200 rebuy with 20 min levels (probably happier).

dubai,i reckon there is almost no real dead wood in these things as it is (15% of field has no hope i guess, 10% have a significant edge and the rest make up the numbers/have a shot on their day id guess)  and no added money/ value. unless ur flush/have no regard for broll mgmt/sat in who's gonna stump up this money?  the majority of players wont outlay that much money in these kind of comps when there is much better value elsewhere. a 500 rebuy would get cancelled with this level of promotion/exposure/value imo.

Totally agree, Alex.

Pitched too high    ...    no dead money    ....    no value.

[gasman]

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