Deep in Sunday Brawl

[Royal Flush]

You've got no history on villain apart from the only hand he's tabled for a big pot is J-J. Using over 1/3 of your decent stack to call all-in on a blind gamble where you're flipping at best isn't ideal imo. Depends what the table's like really in determining whether this is the best use of your money.

66 runs pretty good against A2-A6 and 22-66.

The BB btw is a very good LAG.

[George2Loose]

Full Tilt Poker Game #16408805840: The Sunday Brawl (117197593), Table 23 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:21:10 ET - 2009/11/29
Seat 1: ProbBluffingYou (213,029)
Seat 2: YOUTH_666 (248,344)
Seat 3: YrrsiNN (79,822)
Seat 4: BallsNL (57,994)
Seat 5: mymoneyunoit (80,213)
Seat 6: EIephant (158,033)
Seat 7: George2Loose (223,878)
Seat 8: BKiCe (461,711)
Seat 9: McNallyville (82,498)
ProbBluffingYou antes 600
YOUTH_666 antes 600
YrrsiNN antes 600
BallsNL antes 600
mymoneyunoit antes 600
EIephant antes 600
George2Loose antes 600
BKiCe antes 600
McNallyville antes 600
George2Loose posts the small blind of 2,500
BKiCe posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
McNallyville folds
ProbBluffingYou folds
YOUTH_666 folds
CharlieLee (Observer): lol flipaments
YrrsiNN raises to 79,222, and is all in
BallsNL folds
mymoneyunoit folds
EIephant folds
George2Loose calls 79,222
BKiCe raises to 461,711 and is all in
George2Loose ?

[MANTIS01]

You've got no history on villain apart from the only hand he's tabled for a big pot is J-J. Using over 1/3 of your decent stack to call all-in on a blind gamble where you're flipping at best isn't ideal imo. Depends what the table's like really in determining whether this is the best use of your money.

66 runs pretty good against A2-A6 and 22-66.

The BB btw is a very good LAG.

That is a fact. What evidence do you have that A2-A6 are the type of hands villain shoves here?

[outragous76]

Nice timing on the post George!

Without knowing anything about the villain - i think you gotta pass (or even moreso if you think he is a rock or tight player)

How was your image at this time?

As for knowing the villain is a good Lag - there are arguements for a call as  the side pot is greater than you existing stack.

Not that you were calling to induce with 66! - but surely the timebank got some action here?

[Sack it off]

Dependant on your own personal view, and only you can answer this.

Do you have an edge over your table? Or do you feel like you're on a table with YellowSub86, ShaunDeeb, Hitthehole?

if it's the latter I take the potential flip.

[George2Loose]

My image has been fairly solid pre flop. Been quite aggressive in pots. Pulled off a couple of bluffs but not had to show them

[Royal Flush]

You've got no history on villain apart from the only hand he's tabled for a big pot is J-J. Using over 1/3 of your decent stack to call all-in on a blind gamble where you're flipping at best isn't ideal imo. Depends what the table's like really in determining whether this is the best use of your money.

66 runs pretty good against A2-A6 and 22-66.

The BB btw is a very good LAG.

That is a fact. What evidence do you have that A2-A6 are the type of hands villain shoves here?

I've played with him a few hundred times, whats your evidence that he doesn't?

[Royal Flush]

Do you have an edge over your table? Or do you feel like you're on a table with YellowSub86, ShaunDeeb, Hitthehole?

BkIce is much better than sub and deeb.

[MANTIS01]

You've got no history on villain apart from the only hand he's tabled for a big pot is J-J. Using over 1/3 of your decent stack to call all-in on a blind gamble where you're flipping at best isn't ideal imo. Depends what the table's like really in determining whether this is the best use of your money.

66 runs pretty good against A2-A6 and 22-66.

The BB btw is a very good LAG.

That is a fact. What evidence do you have that A2-A6 are the type of hands villain shoves here?

I've played with him a few hundred times, whats your evidence that he doesn't?

I'm not always privy to your own personal history with a villain before making my decisions. As in this case.

[StuartHopkin]

George do you have an issue passing pocket sixes?
Is it not the same hand you got into trouble with in the 30R a couple of weeks back?

I have no problem passing if I think it's the correct play Stu. I just want to know what the optimal play is here. The discussion so far tells me it's not a straightforward fold/shove

Wasnt having a pop mate!
Just interesting as its the same hand, are we over valuing the strength of 66 a bit?
Personally I have no idea why you would want to get involved in this hand, but then again I play so much more live than online which probably makes a difference.

[CounterfeitKing]

George, we really need to know what your plan was when you decided to flat, if you didnt have one then why and what is your thought process. Addressing the thought process is much more important than saying the hand was good or bad for obvious reasons.

[LeKnave]

Do you have an edge over your table? Or do you feel like you're on a table with Hitthehole?

lol if i could pick one reg to be deep in the brawl with, its defo middy!

[GreekStein]

Do you have an edge over your table? Or do you feel like you're on a table with Hitthehole?

lol if i could pick one reg to be deep in the brawl with, its defo middy!

u wanna be deep in with middy?

you're sick jones

[George2Loose]

George, we really need to know what your plan was when you decided to flat, if you didnt have one then why and what is your thought process. Addressing the thought process is much more important than saying the hand was good or bad for obvious reasons.

OK thought process

1) I thought I was ahead of cut off's range. I did tank it tho cos I know most of the time I'm flipping. Do I want to take a 140k race at this stage?
2) Having thought about it, if I call and lose I still have 150k which is average chips.
3) I thought flatting this raise size is pretty unexploitable. If he shoves, he has to have better right? So the plan is to call/fold to BB shove. However once it actually happens and I have a third of my stack out there finding that fold button can prove difficult

[outragous76]

George, we really need to know what your plan was when you decided to flat, if you didnt have one then why and what is your thought process. Addressing the thought process is much more important than saying the hand was good or bad for obvious reasons.

OK thought process

1) I thought I was ahead of cut off's range. I did tank it tho cos I know most of the time I'm flipping. Do I want to take a 140k race at this stage?
2) Having thought about it, if I call and lose I still have 150k which is average chips.
3) I thought flatting this raise size is pretty unexploitable. If he shoves, he has to have better right? So the plan is to call/fold to BB shove. However once it actually happens and I have a third of my stack out there finding that fold button can prove difficult

I think all of the above is fine........ obv

however, knowing he is a super lag and v competant it is a time bank decission.

He isnt making that play with a lower pair, but there is a good likelihood you are flipping.

Call seems ok for the side pot - if 150k is ave nothing wrong with folding - but i prob go for it if i know what flushy seems to know about the BB