$20 Omaha MTT

[Bainn]

60 Players started with 10K, 12 min blinds, I had just dropped down from around 13K and the current average is 10345 with 57 remaining.

Blinds - 30/60

10 handed table ( Only 4 players see the flop, all others fold )


Bainn = 10,610
Oppo = 13,000 Apr


Bainn cards = 

Oppo UTG - raises to 210

Player UTG+1 - calls

Bainn Mid - calls 210   (1)

Player SB - calls 150


Flop =


Player SB - checks

Oppo - bets 870

Player UTG+1 - folds

Bainn - raises to 1740  (2)

Player SB - folds

Oppo - reraises to 5220


What would be the best course of action now, Oppos action suggests a set ?


Bainn - goes Allin 8660

Oppo - calls 4310

Oppo shows =


Turn =


River =


(1) Reraise here ?

(2) Bad, should have potted ?

[maldini32]

1) Preflop i dont mind how you've played it, reraising is fine too.
2) Id deffo pot it here.

On the flop your hand is a favourite versus his, you have a nuclear draw you just never play this passively well i dont.

Its just an orgasmic flop.

Ul

[Madone]

get the fucker in!

[NoflopsHomer]

As played you should probably flat the reraise on the flop, purely so you can get away from a paired board on the turn (obv not folding any other card).


Then again, I'd have probably raised more on the flop and had to call all-in anyway.

[GreekStein]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

[Bainn]

Thanks chaps, happy with my flat call pre but the flop, the min raise was stupid with flat calling his flop bet probably the wisest thing. Of course if shorter stacks involved the potting it becomes best ?

If I had potted it on the flop, I do have the impression that my oppo may have repotted it, so the chips may well have gone all in anyway.

[Bainn]

Looking at the hand again, my oppo has no redraws, so if I had reraised on the flop woulf he be obliged to repot it anyway ?

[BulldozerD]

he has fullhouse redraws

the money is always likely to go in in these spots, only point of contention is whether you flat his reraise on the flop and get it in on turn or just go ahead and get it all in on the flop.

seems very standard from all angles to me but i am an omaha n00b

[EvilPie]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

[GreekStein]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

Don't agree with that Pieman, if I've got the set I want em in, for reasons of multipleness.

[EvilPie]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

Don't agree with that Pieman, if I've got the set I want em in, for reasons of multipleness.

I didn't say I would play it passively, I'd want 'em in too. What I said was that out of the 2 if I'm going to look for a safe turn it's with the set.

[Bainn]

he has fullhouse redraws

the money is always likely to go in in these spots, only point of contention is whether you flat his reraise on the flop and get it in on turn or just go ahead and get it all in on the flop.

seems very standard from all angles to me but i am an omaha n00b

What I meant to type was "No obvious redraws except the fullhouse"  

Ta for the comment though.

[Bainn]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

Fair point, from the sets point of view any club or straight card on the turn is going to make you sweat a little having been called on the flop, could (Should) he be calling if I pot that turn ?

[EvilPie]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

Fair point, from the sets point of view any club or straight card on the turn is going to make you sweat a little having been called on the flop, could (Should) he be calling if I pot that turn ?

This is one of those hands that isildur and ivey will happily get their whole stack in with with either hand. It's just a cooler mate. Basically you've both got the nuts so even if you're sat ridic deep it's going in. One of you could play it passive but why the fuck would you. you've both got a monster!!!

[NoflopsHomer]

You can rule out him overplaying aces straight away seeing as the only time he goes nutso like this on the flop is when he has the nut flush draw with his aces. Since we know that isn't possible, the only other hand realistically in his range to do this with is a set.

Given this I think the best action is to flat call his re-raise. If the turn pairs we can curse at life, but preserve a few thousand.

If the board, doesn't pair, whether it hits us or not we are jamming it in.

Pretty much this really. On the flop we're about 50 50 because of his house redraws.

If we do a flat call now and see a non paired brick we're still over 40% so have to get it in.

I don't mind getting it in on the flop either though tbh. Our draw is huge and I can't see playing it passively as being a good thing really. I think of the 2 hands I prefer to play the set passively and look for a brick turn than vice versa.

Fair point, from the sets point of view any club or straight card on the turn is going to make you sweat a little having been called on the flop, could (Should) he be calling if I pot that turn ?

This is one of those hands that isildur and ivey will happily get their whole stack in with with either hand. It's just a cooler mate. Basically you've both got the nuts so even if you're sat ridic deep it's going in. One of you could play it passive but why the fuck would you. you've both got a monster!!!

They play cash, not tournaments. It's completely different. They can reload, you can't here in this spot.