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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 12:56:31 AM »


Ive never been a fan of taking 3 keepers, it basically just takes an outfielders spot.


not really. squad sizes were increased to 23 to allow for the 3rd 'keeper. before korea/japan it was always 22
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2010, 01:01:51 AM »

After thinking about this abit mroe and watching more games, I think if we are going for 4-4-2 he really needs to choose between Gerrard and Lampard. We are blessed with lots of good wingers, it would be a shame to play with such a narrow formation especially with Crouch/Carlton Cole up front.
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2010, 01:08:10 AM »


Ive never been a fan of taking 3 keepers, it basically just takes an outfielders spot.


not really. squad sizes were increased to 23 to allow for the 3rd 'keeper. before korea/japan it was always 22

i stand corrected, if you've not just made that up
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2010, 02:10:09 AM »

Agbonlahor - I think he's hit and miss and his pace could be lethal but he's not in my squad as if Rooney isn't fit i go with Crouch and Defoe as they've formed a partnership at Spurs and i still want owen there as if there is anyone in the world i get to pick to take a chance to win the world cup it's him.

Surely this raw pace is covered if Walcott goes. Plus Walcott can finish better and play on the right and has already done it in a pressure cooker environment for the senior team.

Too many question marks over Gabby for me.
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2010, 02:14:01 AM »

Dawson is really reliable, he is 100% commited and could be a good back up centre half, definetely better than Richard/Lescott/Jagielka. Scott Parker has drive, similar to Gerrard really, he is in top top form at the moment in a weak West Ham team. Should be ahead of the likes of Hargreaves/Wright Phillips/ Jenas.

How about Tom Huddlestone I think he is better than Gareth Barry, unreal distribution - his range of passing is sick. Better goalthreat than Barry and also bigger/stronger.

Dawson over Jagielka? Jagielka is immense. Dawson is committed....errr, that's about it.

Scott Parker??? lol! Gerrard and Hargreaves both who have done it at the very highest levels for some of the biggest clubs in world football. He's not even close to their calibre on his very very best day.
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2010, 03:08:42 AM »

There is 0 chance Jagielka should go to world cup imo.
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2010, 09:22:25 AM »

There is 0 chance Jagielka should go to world cup imo.

The more I see him the more I realise Citeh bought the wrong centre half last summer.

Fair if you think that Jagielka isn't good enough but then Dawson is even further away as he's pants.  No positional sense, lack of pace, prone to huge mistakes and no sense of timing whatsoever. He's not in the top 6 choices for centre half.

He typifies why england have failed so many times in the past, all blood, guts and thunder and no knowledge of how to play footall.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2010, 09:29:01 AM »

There is 0 chance Jagielka should go to world cup imo.

The more I see him the more I realise Citeh bought the wrong centre half last summer.

Fair if you think that Jagielka isn't good enough but then Dawson is even further away as he's pants.  No positional sense, lack of pace, prone to huge mistakes and no sense of timing whatsoever. He's not in the top 6 choices for centre half.

He typifies why england have failed so many times in the past, all blood, guts and thunder and no knowledge of how to play footall.

Fair, I was meaning more because of the lack of games Jagielka has played. Everyone is going on about how good Englands team is but I think we are very poor. No good right backs, no good centre midfielders, no world class wingers, one world class striker, no decent goalkeepers and two centre halfs with huge problems. Back England now then lay then when they go through their easy group stage imo.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2010, 09:50:58 AM »

There is 0 chance Jagielka should go to world cup imo.

The more I see him the more I realise Citeh bought the wrong centre half last summer.

Fair if you think that Jagielka isn't good enough but then Dawson is even further away as he's pants.  No positional sense, lack of pace, prone to huge mistakes and no sense of timing whatsoever. He's not in the top 6 choices for centre half.

He typifies why england have failed so many times in the past, all blood, guts and thunder and no knowledge of how to play footall.

Fair, I was meaning more because of the lack of games Jagielka has played. Everyone is going on about how good Englands team is but I think we are very poor. No good right backs, no good centre midfielders, no world class wingers, one world class striker, no decent goalkeepers and two centre halfs with huge problems. Back England now then lay then when they go through their easy group stage imo.

Cant really argue with that.

I think Capello has to stick to what he's done so far. Use the big man up top to bring the Rooney & the midfielders (our best assets) into play.
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2010, 01:48:09 PM »

If we are going for the "big man" I think it's imperritive we use his wisely and play two out and out wingers, most probably Young and Downing as they have the best delivery and offer the best service. BUt I'm pretty sure Cappelo will play Gerrard, Lampard and Barry which I just really dont like/dont think works. If he does insist in playing them all. Then 3-5-2 works so well.

Left sided centre half? No problem, Upson.

Wing backs who have the energy to get forward and help defend too? No problem Milner and Ashley Cole.

Midfielder who is content sitting there? No problem Barry

Midfielders who can score goals and are effective in final third? No problem we have arguably the two best in the world, Gerrard and Lampard.

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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 02:29:04 PM »

Until his injury and then subsequent dip in form, Johnson was Liverpool's best player this season imo, and was on the whole very good defensively.
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« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2010, 02:58:54 PM »

Until his injury and then subsequent dip in form, Johnson was Liverpool's best player this season imo, and was on the whole very good defensively.

and would also be a fantastic wing back, infact it would suit his and ashley coles games perfectly imo.
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« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2010, 03:18:26 PM »

We're not playing a big man to cross to though. We're playing him for Rooney to play off.
Gerrard on the left and Lampard in the middle has been working well. Barry hasn't been amazing for Man City this season but i think thats because they are making him go forward more. With England we're happy for him to play just the holding role.
Lennon or Walcott are favourite for the right hand side as we also want the pace option.

In my opinion we have 1 good right back and 1 world class centre midfielder (2 actually but 1 will play on the left).
I don't see Terry having any problems at the moment but i agree Rio needs to come back and get some form before the World Cup.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2010, 05:17:45 PM »

Ok, so if we aren't putting a big man in to score goals, but to work 110% and supply Rooney with lots of ammunition then Heskey should defs be the strike partner imo.
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2010, 06:29:40 PM »

Ok, so if we aren't putting a big man in to score goals, but to work 110% and supply Rooney with lots of ammunition then Heskey should defs be the strike partner imo.

How is it ever right to play a Striker who isn't expected to score goals,although Rooney's in sick form at the minute we can't just rely on him for eveything obviously gerrard/lampard contirbute but the 2nd striker has to also.

Crouch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heskey
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