NFL 2010

[stonecoldkiller]

Fancy Clay Matthews to be all over cutler tonight, the guy is a total beast.

[The Camel]

If you backed the Packers tonight you should feel robbed.

The better team on both offense and defense.

Special Teams and Pens were the only way the Bears stayed around until the amazing play by Briggs and Urlacher.

[gatso]

lol, wtf? I went to bed at 1/2 time pretty sure I knew the result already and there's only so many times you can watch cutler get beat up. can't believe the packers didn't win

[77dave]

If you backed the Packers tonight you should feel robbed.

The better team on both offense and defense.

Special Teams and Pens were the only way the Bears stayed around until the amazing play by Briggs and Urlacher.

5 teams won this weekend even though they gave up over 100+ yrds net on offence

[77dave]

I think robbed is a very harsh term.

The Packers indisicpine was a big part of it so have to blame themselves a lot

Penalties 18-152 5-38
Turnovers 2 1

GB gave up their most penalties in a match in 40 years, giving up 150 yrds of pens in a game you cant expect to win

Same as against the Cowboys, Chicago won the penalties and turnover war and thats why they won.

2nd half Defence is the reason Chicago are 3-0. They gave up 2 FGs against the Lions. No points against the Cowboys and 1 TD v GB.

[The Camel]

I think robbed is a very harsh term.

The Packers indisicpine was a big part of it so have to blame themselves a lot

Penalties 18-152 5-38
Turnovers 2 1

GB gave up their most penalties in a match in 40 years, giving up 150 yrds of pens in a game you cant expect to win

Same as against the Cowboys, Chicago won the penalties and turnover war and thats why they won.

2nd half Defence is the reason Chicago are 3-0. They gave up 2 FGs against the Lions. No points against the Cowboys and 1 TD v GB.

Some of the penalties were very very marginal.

They would not have been called againt the Pack at Lambeau.

Finley is an absolute beast and Rodgers seems to have matured into one of the top 5 QBs in the league.

The good thing about the result is I can get a bigger price on Green Bay for the division.

[77dave]

Dont get me wrong i think GB are a great team and my tip for the NFC.

I dont think i can remember a better performance by a losing QB by Rodgers for a long time.

By the end of the season i think he will be the no2 QB in the NFL behind P Manning and ahead of Brady and Brees

[thetank]

I dont think i can remember a better performance by a losing QB by Rodgers for a long time.

Kyle Orton the day before.

[The Camel]

I dont think i can remember a better performance by a losing QB by Rodgers for a long time.

Kyle Orton the day before.

It must be the rule changes which have stopped defenses blasting QBs which means they are more confident in the pocket, because there are more "quality" QBs in the league today than in my memory of the game.

Without even thinking: Both Mannings, Brady, Rodgers, Favre, Cutler, Ryan, Brees, McNabb, Schaub, Romo, Rothlesberger, Palmer and Rivers are all genuine elite QBs.

Used to be 3 or 4 per generation. Now its nearly half the starters.

[77dave]

What do you think of the next generation coming through.

Can you see the likes of Flacco, Henne, Sanchez, Stafford, McCoy and Braford making it to the elite section

[stonecoldkiller]

What do you think of the next generation coming through.

Can you see the likes of Flacco, Henne, Sanchez, Stafford, McCoy and Braford making it to the elite section

Flacco, Sanchez and Bradford from that list imo.

[The Camel]

What do you think of the next generation coming through.

Can you see the likes of Flacco, Henne, Sanchez, Stafford, McCoy and Braford making it to the elite section

I think Stafford has the tools to be a top QB but like David Carr and JP Losman in other places he has no chance because his O line cannot protect him.

[TightEnd]

Flacco could be, less natural talent than some others but the sheer efficiency of his team year after year will make him look good

Stafford and Sanchez yes. Sanchez on the way. Stafford and Bradford will depend on how well they are protected. Both No 1 picks so it would suggest they have a shot. Much like Peyton Manning when he was drafted by a no hope franchise the Colts, will depend what they surround their QB with


Henne no, McCoy or Tebow too early to say


A lot of franchise qbs at the moment for two reasons I feel

a) has been mentioned, they are protected like never before and therefore are generally more durable and more confident

b) the changes in the rules to accentuate the passing game, making it tougher for defensive backs to defend by contact etc. Back in the old days cornerbacks could literally mug WRs at the line and all the way down the field making big numbers much trickier to achieve

b) in particular is responsible for stellar numbers which over time is meaning the stats from the modern qbs are eclipsiing those from past eras

It's only Marino and Elway (and Favre, of corse)  whose stats are yet to be overtaken by the best 10 in the modern era, and now Manning is up there and about to go top on most categories

[smileriraq]

As a Bears fan its tough to say but I think the Pack beat themselves at no point did I think we stopped their offense rather they made mistakes that stopped themselves.

That said the packers indiscipline was astounding , I can think of only two that was a marginal one being  false start, the second being rodgers intentional grounding however that can be offset by the fact I spotted two blatant holding calls by the packers that were not picked up, also factor in completely bonehead plays such as the upending of forte clearly after the whistle had blown.

That said the Bears did enough to win.

Im think the packers will still take the division and that having to chase Chicago will help them focus on eliminating stupid plays and make them a better team.

as for the future stud Qbs Bradford and Stafford should be in the mix as these two teams wont be cellar dwellers for much longer.

[Indestructable]

Anyone else going to Wembley on the 31st October?
There is a change to the tailgate party arrangements:

"The 2010 Tailgate Party will be different from previous years, with access open to all game ticket holders, meaning that you do not need to apply in advance to be able to attend. A new location gives the event much more space, and means that you can party pre-game in the shadow of the Wembley arch."

Must admit that I thought we were getting two top teams this year but based on the season so far it is more like West Ham v Wolves.