jacks

[Ironside]

opp hasnt done anything notable since i have been on table

he has folded a couple of times to my 3 bets pre

what do i do with jacks here

PokerStars Game #40126651048: Tournament #285020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (500/1000) - 2010/02/22 0:16:30 WET [2010/02/21 19:16:30 ET]
Table '285020010 3443' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Cowboy_Dubar (43292 in chips)
Seat 2: mexa15 (30468 in chips)
Seat 3: Mr Brizza (24362 in chips)
Seat 4: absoluto99 (24847 in chips)
Seat 5: Kennethmedh (37289 in chips)
Seat 6: deestein (60618 in chips)
Seat 7: Ironside (54809 in chips)
Seat 8: povy46 (26931 in chips)
Seat 9: Rac-n-Rolla (45797 in chips)
Cowboy_Dubar: posts the ante 75
mexa15: posts the ante 75
Mr Brizza: posts the ante 75
absoluto99: posts the ante 75
Kennethmedh: posts the ante 75
deestein: posts the ante 75
Ironside: posts the ante 75
povy46: posts the ante 75
Rac-n-Rolla: posts the ante 75
Kennethmedh: posts small blind 500
deestein: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
Ironside: raises 1500 to 2500
povy46: folds
Rac-n-Rolla: folds
Cowboy_Dubar: raises 5175 to 7675
mexa15: folds
Mr Brizza: folds
absoluto99: folds
Kennethmedh: folds
deestein: folds

[Dubai]

I dont think only options are Shove/fold. 13.8k and calling it off is better than shoving imo, and I definitely dont think calling pre is as bad as you will all think.

With no dynamics I prob just fold, assuming u probably not got out of line much at all either

[NigDawG]

if you've 3bet him off his own hands more than once since you've been at the table then you do have a dynamic going imo

[Royal Flush]

if you've 3bet him off his own hands more than once since you've been at the table then you do have a dynamic going imo

exactly this, looking to get this in.

[810ofclubs]

fistpump

[doubleup]

if you've 3bet him off his own hands more than once since you've been at the table then you do have a dynamic going imo

Given their table postions its unlikely that these confrontations have been steal/resteal.  Unless hero has been opening in ep a lot, I can't see the previous action as a reason why villain wouldn't think hero has a hand.

[Ironside]

ok i put this hand up as i thought i might have played it badly with flawed thinking

i called with the plan of leading on a flop without face card is this bad?

[Royal Flush]

ok i put this hand up as i thought i might have played it badly with flawed thinking

i called with the plan of leading on a flop without face card is this bad?

Depends are you bet/calling bet/folding or bet/jamming?

[Ironside]

ok i put this hand up as i thought i might have played it badly with flawed thinking

i called with the plan of leading on a flop without face card is this bad?

Depends are you bet/calling bet/folding or bet/jamming?

thats where it gets complicated plan was to put in 10k on flop

he would only have 20k back so it means bet calling or bet folding

as i said that was plan

what actually happened is i forgot the plan and checked min raised on the 4 high flop and he folded

[Royal Flush]

Well bet folding would be terrible, bet calling would be good, 4b pre would be best.

[Ironside]

as i said i butchered it but somehow got the chips

didnt like my play afterwards which is why i posted hand


PokerStars Game #40126651048: Tournament #285020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (500/1000) - 2010/02/22 0:16:30 WET [2010/02/21 19:16:30 ET]
Table '285020010 3443' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Cowboy_Dubar (43292 in chips)
Seat 2: mexa15 (30468 in chips)
Seat 3: Mr Brizza (24362 in chips)
Seat 4: absoluto99 (24847 in chips)
Seat 5: Kennethmedh (37289 in chips)
Seat 6: deestein (60618 in chips)
Seat 7: Ironside (54809 in chips)
Seat 8: povy46 (26931 in chips)
Seat 9: Rac-n-Rolla (45797 in chips)
Cowboy_Dubar: posts the ante 75
mexa15: posts the ante 75
Mr Brizza: posts the ante 75
absoluto99: posts the ante 75
Kennethmedh: posts the ante 75
deestein: posts the ante 75
Ironside: posts the ante 75
povy46: posts the ante 75
Rac-n-Rolla: posts the ante 75
Kennethmedh: posts small blind 500
deestein: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
Ironside: raises 1500 to 2500
povy46: folds
Rac-n-Rolla: folds
Cowboy_Dubar: raises 5175 to 7675
mexa15: folds
Mr Brizza: folds
absoluto99: folds
Kennethmedh: folds
deestein: folds
Ironside: calls 5175
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Ironside: checks
Cowboy_Dubar: bets 11250
Ironside: raises 11250 to 22500
Cowboy_Dubar: folds
Uncalled bet (11250) returned to Ironside
Ironside collected 40025 from pot
Ironside: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40025 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Cowboy_Dubar folded on the Flop
Seat 2: mexa15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Mr Brizza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: absoluto99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Kennethmedh (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: deestein (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Ironside collected (40025)
Seat 8: povy46 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Rac-n-Rolla folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Ironside]

btw does the fact its a freeroll (according to flushy as i used fpps to buy in) change the thinking

[Royal Flush]

btw does the fact its a freeroll (according to flushy as i used fpps to buy in) change the thinking

It's free to enter for you, doubt it was free to enter for the whole field, if it was i want my $215 back

[George2Loose]

btw does the fact its a freeroll (according to flushy as i used fpps to buy in) change the thinking

No. Just like if you went on to win you shouldn't spend the money any differently.

Never peeling 7.5bb 3bets OOP myself. Look into 'reverse implied odds' if you need an explanation. Prefer the bet-call on this board once you have though, try to induce the bluff shove from missed AK hands cos you're going broke to bigger pairs whatever.

James please explain reverse implied odds so I don't have to look it up

[Ironside]

btw does the fact its a freeroll (according to flushy as i used fpps to buy in) change the thinking

It's free to enter for you, doubt it was free to enter for the whole field, if it was i want my $215 back

but surely if the fpps used for this have a monetary value the fpps used in the takedown also have value
after all i could use the to enter another 215$ event in future