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TheWhisper
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Staking
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February 24, 2010, 02:41:51 PM »
Hi Everyone
I have had to withdraw my poker roll to pay for bills etc but have some time to play tonight and really fancy a game.
I am just looking to play a $22 180 man on Stars.
50/50 after stake deducted in the event of any binkage?
Kind regards
TheWhisper
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LeedsRhodesy
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 03:49:13 PM »
Not sure what time I will be home, 7ish I hope will post later if you don't have a backer by then, what's your stars name?
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paulhouk03
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 04:12:30 PM »
you wanna just play the one tourney?
oprs?
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TheWhisper
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 04:23:18 PM »
Thanks - thewhisper
Yes just the one
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/TheWhisper/poker/results/1A1E292D860145DD92AAEC75D0BB736A.html?t=2
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/TheWhisper/poker/results/1A1E292D860145DD92AAEC75D0BB736A.html?t=2
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Royal Flush
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Booooccccceeeeeee
Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 05:13:44 PM »
According to OPR you run at about 50% ROI in these games, so why should someone stake you at ~100% ROI to see any return?
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thetank
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 05:20:24 PM »
Ya, ridic premium to charge for a single comp.
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TheWhisper
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 05:35:53 PM »
Thank you Flushy for pointing the error of my ways I will spend the evening watching TV instead.
I am not sure I agree with your interpretation of my results as I show a profit on these games, albeit small.
Thetank, not sure I understand your comment, staking for single games is always 50/50.
Be lucky
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GreekStein
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 05:40:49 PM »
Quote from: TheWhisper on February 24, 2010, 05:35:53 PM
staking for single games is always 50/50.
according to who?
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thetank
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February 24, 2010, 05:51:07 PM »
Quote from: TheWhisper on February 24, 2010, 05:35:53 PM
staking for single games is always 50/50.
Are you putting up 50% of the buy-in?
If not you are charging a premium. Wanting someone to put up 100% of the money for 50% of any prize is far from standard in a single comp staking deal.
If you can find mugs that like to do this then well played. Keep doing exactly what you're doing and more power to you.
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byronkincaid
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 05:59:34 PM »
tbf people have made this mistake before because people who are running good or whatever will stake X blondes at 50/50 but obv there is a difference between offering a stake and asking for one. also 50/50 could be fine for a long term +ev deal, but not really for a one off.
i read (dunno if true) that that russian dude who finaled the WSOP and the WSOPE was staked 100% and only got 10% of each win.
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 06:01:13 PM »
Quote from: TheWhisper on February 24, 2010, 05:35:53 PM
Thank you Flushy for pointing the error of my ways I will spend the evening watching TV instead.
I am not sure I agree with your interpretation of my results as I show a profit on these games, albeit small.
Thetank, not sure I understand your comment,
staking for single games is always 50/50.
Be lucky
Sometimes people will offer this as a one off for fun but asking for it is way over the top.
If you can point me to a thread on here where someone has asked for and got 50/50 for 100% staking I'll be impressed.
70/30 in stakers favour is about the best you can get.
Not saying you're trying to rip anyone off I think you just don't understand quite how much you're asking for.
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thetank
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 06:04:17 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on February 24, 2010, 05:59:34 PM
tbf people have made this mistake before because people who are running good or whatever will stake X blondes at 50/50 but obv there is a difference between offering a stake and asking for one.
Good point.
The offering to stake people in one comp for 50:50 is people who've just had a big win or w/ever and they know they're taking a negative EV hit but they want to give something back to the forum out of a kind of philantropy balla-ness. (or a similar motivation, I dunno. Maybe they want some degen action and would rather that the equity they lose goes to a forum member rather than a casino, or just for the craic, who knows, these people eat £5 notes for a laff
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As byron points out, there's a big difference in people offering free money and people asking for free money. Not saying that's what you've done deliberately, the confusion is understandable.
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 06:22:18 PM »
It's not that we're all h8ers, it's just that there's a slow bloke that posts on here called EvilPie who'd ridic multai and also a bit special. We like to look out for him, he'd have a bit of everthing otherwise.
If Flushy et al didn't point out which deals were shoite for the backer numbers wise poor Matt would only be multai instead of ridic multai.
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maldini32
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 06:26:14 PM »
Cut the guy some slack guys.
He's only asking for $22 not like he's asking for 50/50 backing into an ept event.
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GreekStein
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Re: Staking
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February 24, 2010, 07:11:40 PM »
Quote from: maldini32 on February 24, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
Cut the guy some slack guys.
He's only asking for $22 not like he's asking for 50/50 backing into an ept event.
good luck with your investment.
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