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« on: March 21, 2010, 01:16:56 AM »

Ok, hand from £2/£5 cash game at DTD vs Pete Chaararararararararararalambos.

Only played with him twice before but was well aware of his extremley rocky reputation, probably fair to say in the last couple of times we had played together he has lived up to this, if not far supassed it with his nittyness.

Although hes tight hes got decent results and has been playing for a decent period of time so i know he is deffinatley capable of playing off his image.

Ok Pete opens utg+2 to £15 from a ~£1k stack and I decide to pop it up with  three diamonds to £45 (£1200 stack) from cut off, everybody else passes, Pete throws in the call without any any real thought, i.e. didnt seem to even consider a raise.

Flop comes down  Two Diamonds  (Pot £97). Pete checks and I bet £65, he dwells for 6 or 7 seconds and just calls, although it looked to me that he was thinking about popping it up a bit on the flop.

Turn comes down  (Pot £227). Pete quickly checks. After my read on the flop I dont want to get check raised off my hand by AQ for example and i dont think im getting him to fold too much of his range here so i take a free card to hit my hand.

River comes my flush card but pairs the board with the  . Pete then launches a pink £100 chip into the pot. To me this looks like a bit of a stopper bet with something like KQ or possibly a medium flush. I decide to raise to £305. He then insta throws his stack of pinks into the middle and announces all in for £485 more.

Call? Fold? or cry!?

What can he have here? Do people who have played with him before expect him to be value shoving  Xd here?

Thoughts please.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 01:54:25 AM »

Only played against Pete twice, and yeah he's very tight.

When you've played against him what has your image been? I.e is he aware you're a lagtard or have you managed to not show down too much?

Normally I guess this would be a crying fold, but the speed with which he moves in makes me want to call. Could he be turning the into a bluff?

Hmmm bit of a fuckery this one, think it may be a sigh dwell fold. (I call).
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 02:23:10 AM »

Only played against Pete twice, and yeah he's very tight.

When you've played against him what has your image been? I.e is he aware you're a lagtard or have you managed to not show down too much?

Normally I guess this would be a crying fold, but the speed with which he moves in makes me want to call. Could he be turning the into a bluff?




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Hmmm bit of a fuckery this one, think it may be a sigh dwell fold. (I call).
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 02:49:38 AM »

Trivially easy pass aginst this player imo.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 04:07:59 AM »

Definately fold, it looks a lot like AA full or maybe QQ to me
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 05:34:12 AM »

lol... so its just a fold against this player ? pretty sure its a fold vs any player..

pete plays good solid and good IMO and would expect him to have qq here often.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 05:51:38 AM »

I don't understand why we raise the river?
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 06:13:25 AM »

Fold, he has QQ.

He calls on any other flush and it's never a bluff
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2010, 11:24:00 AM »

I don't understand why we raise the river?

Yeah, this.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 03:52:30 PM »

Meh I really think I'd call here. If Pete takes any amount of time to consider before he moves in I pass, but he's done it so quickly I expect him to be running a bluff here with Axdd. Live tells ftw.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 03:56:02 PM »

I don't understand why we raise the river?

i like what this man has to say
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 04:56:33 PM »

ok im going to write it all again so be patient guys

We're all clicking auto refresh waiting.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2010, 05:40:06 PM »

had to post that bit cos as u keep busting my balls an the first 1 i wrote got lost so boo hoo, not sure which 1 was better but firts 1 was more funny ok let me get back to it

Is Frankie helping you write it?
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 05:41:48 PM »

Only played wt Mitch 1 time before an hes a really nice guy an plays poker well considering ive seen him loose both times! Suppose im flattered to be called a NIT an for this hand to be talked about so ill give u my 15 years expierence on the matter...... I played a week earlier wt Mitch an had played extremly solid which i like to do in general!! Had just retired from online poker due to big downswing even though i had amaased £80000 in live touneys in thelast year an still came out losing? Yeah wierd considering im suppose to be cash game pro ! But felt had to retire from the virtual world of short handed plo an revert back to basics of NL hold em....... Really is a great game to learn the value of £ again after all those numbers online an just 3an 4 betting wt hands like 6789 or 258Q in plo lol an not being able to pass!to the grind of live mid stakes 9 handed NL hold em needing the patience of a tortoise to succeed.Great to get my game back an most importantly confindence.OK here goes i sit down wt £1000 after busting out of irish sattelite an after 10 mins i find the BIG CHARRA, Yes they named a hand after me after india storra was abusing me on felt i did a sick play wt a hand in the £3000 gukpt main event.John eamess,Matt perrins, Jake cody,Tom macdonald an Stuart rutter now called me Big Charra which is  . There was a straddle an i opened for £35 but it wasnt suited a big no no ! a brummie lad on tilt an short stacked repopped it to £100 an a calling station called so i decided to not get involved as i have a tendecny to have to win the pot at all costs wt this hand an as fate has it, tilty boy floped trips so i dodged a bullet!!! So 2 hands later me an mitch play this pot where i rasie utg wt  to £15 an soon as i saw mitch look at his chips i always knew he was 3 betting as he had me down as really solid wt abc gameplan! An i had him down as another young gun an had seen many of his kind in my life an knew how to handle them! Called his reiase wt no hesetation as knew he was raisng me light an that he had a plan to outplay this NIT but i had other plans.When the flop came i was 90% certain i was in front an elected to check call even though 4 a split second i almost raised but i thought out of postion ill play a small pot as i had a rough idea how his betting would go if he didnt have a real hand. The turn came  an i didnt really like this card as my range of hands i put him on preflop were mid cards like 9 j or 10 j or 9 10 some sort of gutshot so i think i would fo reraised had he bet the turn big to commit my hand so he couldnt bluff me but he was smart an checked so now i knew i was niles in front an when the river  i actually thought it was a blank. An i threw £100 chip in not as a stopper bet really but as a value bet but in hindsight might of been a bad bet from me as what can he call me wt ? but it gices him the chance to reraise wt air but the check check on the turn made this hand interesting. ill post this bit an then type the next bit ! long winded i know but quite fun as never post ! x

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2010, 05:48:43 PM »

had to post that bit cos as u keep busting my balls an the first 1 i wrote got lost so boo hoo, not sure which 1 was better but firts 1 was more funny ok let me get back to it

Is Frankie helping you write it?



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