DTD £300 on the bubble

[Claw75]

this hand seems to have caused a bit of a hoo-hah on the updates thread so thought I'd stick it up here.

We're on the FT bubble at DTD, so we're 5 handed.  I have 500k, villain has 450k - average is 280k, and we're the biggest stacks at the table.  I've had a good run of cards and have raised the button almost every orbit, taking the blinds and antes.  Last orbit BB has dwelt up a bit before folding face up.

Next time round it's folded to me on the button again with .  With blinds at 5k/10k/500  I've made it 27k.  BB has re-popped this time to 80K.  I think his range is fairly wide here given the history, and put him to the decision for all of his chips.  Terribly spewy, or OK?

[marcin123]

standard... not a moment's thought... shipppppp...

[Dewi_cool]

put a poll up

fold
call
ship

[George2Loose]

this was button vs big blind too? This is just cold. Obv a shove

[technolog]

When the AK comes along
You must ship it!

Before the case king comes along
You must ship it!

To stop the pokerz going wrong
You must ship it!

[LeKnave]

guessing we're asking whether to min4 or shove?

[kinboshi]

Fold pre, he has KK.

[Claw75]

guessing we're asking whether to min4 or shove?

I thought the 4 bet shove was standard, but a couple of players at the club and on the updates reckoned I should have just flatted the 3 bet, so just checking the general concensus.

[marcin123]

guessing we're asking whether to min4 or shove?

I thought the 4 bet shove was standard, but a couple of players at the club and on the updates reckoned I should have just flatted the 3 bet, so just checking the general concensus.

flat ak 5 handed... wp haha...

[MC]

Terribly spewy, or OK?

AK is the nuts in this situation, and the re-shove is the best play...

[action man]

vs a player who folds AT face up to a button raise its pretty close to turning AK into a bluff here, even 5 handed, a villian like this is never calling AQ here witht he dynamic that your both clear chip leaders. Im not saying i wouldnt shove, because we can definately get pairs to fold. Online its clear 4bet to induce, live is obv different kettle of fish.

[AlexMartin]

guessing we're asking whether to min4 or shove?

I thought the 4 bet shove was standard, but a couple of players at the club and on the updates reckoned I should have just flatted the 3 bet, so just checking the general concensus.

flat ak 5 handed... wp haha...

yer this seems bad beyond belief.

[maldini32]

vs a player who folds AT face up to a button raise its pretty close to turning AK into a bluff here, even 5 handed, a villian like this is never calling AQ here witht he dynamic that your both clear chip leaders. Im not saying i wouldnt shove, because we can definately get pairs to fold. Online its clear 4bet to induce, live is obv different kettle of fish.

v good post

[EvilPie]

vs a player who folds AT face up to a button raise its pretty close to turning AK into a bluff here, even 5 handed, a villian like this is never calling AQ here witht he dynamic that your both clear chip leaders. Im not saying i wouldnt shove, because we can definately get pairs to fold. Online its clear 4bet to induce, live is obv different kettle of fish.

This player is very aggressive and will shove light but he is a good player who won't be calling light at all.

The AT show was probably a meta game thing for him.

In Claire's situation this should be a 4 bet to induce. He may shove AQ and some pairs 99 to JJ but to call your shove he needs QQ+ or AK and you don't do brilliantly against that range.

You play much better against his shoving range so just 4 bet and then sigh when he shoves and you get coolered.

[George2Loose]

vs a player who folds AT face up to a button raise its pretty close to turning AK into a bluff here, even 5 handed, a villian like this is never calling AQ here witht he dynamic that your both clear chip leaders. Im not saying i wouldnt shove, because we can definately get pairs to fold. Online its clear 4bet to induce, live is obv different kettle of fish.

This player is very aggressive and will shove light but he is a good player who won't be calling light at all.

The AT show was probably a meta game thing for him.

In Claire's situation this should be a 4 bet to induce. He may shove AQ and some pairs 99 to JJ but to call your shove he needs QQ+ or AK and you don't do brilliantly against that range.

You play much better against his shoving range so just 4 bet and then sigh when he shoves and you get coolered.

Yeh def 4 bet tho it makes no difference obv