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« on: May 19, 2010, 05:10:14 AM »

In a nutshell

I’m going to be playing the $24+$2 45 man sitngos on full tilt and am looking for a stake of $3,000 (115.4 buy-ins) to be sold in 10 slices of $300 each.
25% of the winnings and accumulated rakeback will be split up equally among the 10 slices so each slice gives 2.5% of my profits.

It looks like there are around six or seven slices available only. Apologies to everyone for the limited availability, especially those involved in the previous venture who don't happen to be awake and were expecting to make more money from it overall than they did.

On the assumption that 5am people is good people, and because there's no real fair way to do this without breaking the slices into smaller chunks (and I don't want to do that) It's first come first served.
Completely arbitary cap of 2 slices per person at this stage.


Previous stake

As detailed here in this thread.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=45511.msg1179420#msg1179420

I was recently involved in a staking arrangement to play the $69+$6 45 man games with very mixed results.



The stakers did see an overall profit even after we went bust, but it was very modest unless they had their slices bought back. Two people even lost money (and slices have been reserved for them in this venture by way of compensation. MC is the only man to have lost money overall staking me to play sitngos on FullTilt, and he's only out $200)

Details of other (and considerably more successful) staking ventures on FullTilt can be found in the proposal at the beginning of that thread.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=45511.0



Selling the $26s

First two pretty pictures.

The first is my overall form in all sitngos on FullTilt



The second is just the $26 45 mans



ROI of 27% after 2,668 games.


There is less of a risk of going broke in this arrangement for 3 reasons.

- The $26s are considerably easier than the $75s.
- The bankroll is slightly larger in terms of # of buyins this time. (115.4 rather than 100)
- The rake is proportionally less at the $26s

The first reason being the major one.




If we do go bust again

As illustrated in my last staking venture though, there is a small chance of going bust and if that happens then that's the risk and the monies will be lost without me officially owing you anything.

If I'm still playing poker though I'll try to be as fair as possible (in this instance I've chosen to reserve slices for the 2 people who lost money overall, MC and Longy, and raise their minimum buyback % for this venture)

I try to do things as fairly as I can, and I believe I offer stakers a +EV oppurtunity.

Do not stake me if you do not trust me to play the last buy-in (if we lose 114.4) with as much will to win as we do the first.
Do not stake me if you do not trust me to treat the funds with respect and not use the $3k as my personal overdraft facility.



Updates

Every Sunday stakers will get a brief note on how many games have been played, how much profit has been made, and my current best estimate of when the 300 game period will conclude.



Buyback

I’ll be looking to gradually buy back the slices one by one during the course of the next year or so. To make the investment worth your while, I offer the guarantee that your slice will not be bought back until the cumulative return on your investment has reached 50%.

If your slice is bought back, the $300 will be returned to you at the same time as the winnings for that period. A full list of the current ownership of the 10 slices will be displayed in your pm at the end of each period.



Withdrawl

At the end of each period of 300 games winning will be shipped and it will be assumed investors want to carry on to the next 300 games.

If you wish to withdraw your stake for any reason then just contact me and your investment will be returned to you at the conclusion of the current 300 game period along with the winnings for that period.

If we ran bad and lost money during that period, your investment returned will not be the full $300 (obv), rather the amount of the current bankroll divided by 10. (for instance if we’re down $500 you’ll get $250 back instead of $300)





Other relevant pieces of information.


Your return will include all winnings from games and all rakeback. It will not include other bonuses, including iron man point value, frequent player point value, leaderboard prizes or prizes from any promotional freerolls I may qualify for .

Except for any promotional freerolls I may qualify for, I don’t use the account to play any other games.

If I lose rakeback from using  frequent player points, I take the hit on that. Stakers will receive the winnings worked out as what the rakeback would have been if I didn’t use the points.

You will be informed  of any major changes to the arrangement in good time to give you the opportunity to withdraw your investment if you so choose.

I'll be looking to build to playing more than 8 tables, but very gradually, and not at all to begin with because of recent form. (Once I start winning again, I'll think about 9, 10 etc..)


When to begin


Ideally we can start tomorrow night if everyone is able to ship the money by then. Not essential though, but if you can't ship funds by noon on Thurday the right to the slice you reserve will pass to the next person on the list.
Details of where to ship will be sent by pm.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2010, 05:12:58 AM »

One slice sold by pm

5 or 6 left.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 07:20:28 AM »

$300 slice please. FTP transfer ok I guess?
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:37:58 AM »

1 slice of tank pls

just a few qs

how come u have decided to play the 26s?
how long will 300 games roughly take to complette?
will you ever play the 11$ 45 seaters when games are slow?
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 08:15:16 AM »

I will take a slice please Tank, will ship on FT, lemme know if I made the cut in time  thumbs up
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 08:16:58 AM »

1 slice here please mate. GL.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 08:25:23 AM »

I'll have one if any left
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 10:34:43 AM »

Hi mate, unlucky in the last one. I'll take whatever's left (if any). Cheers.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 12:00:14 PM »


how come u have decided to play the 26s?
how long will 300 games roughly take to complette?
will you ever play the 11$ 45 seaters when games are slow?


1. Combination of factors. I know I can comfortably beat the games, I have the potential to increase my hourly by making slow moves towards playing more tables, the 75s are getting slower to start and recent bad run. I'm a specialist who doesn't like chopping between game formats, so I stick with the 45 mans.

2. 1 week to 4 weeks depending on personal circumstances, typically somewhere in between. Things change but every Sunday I estimate when the current period will finish. Will expect things to be slightly faster now I'm playing the 26s. (was used to playing 4= x 75s in 11 hours, will probs manage 60+ 26s in the same time period, and that's before I start adding more tables.

3. Unlikely, I'll probably stick to the 26s.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2010, 12:10:00 PM »

Any left? I would like some if so.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 12:13:13 PM »

redsimon, paulhouk, daveshoelace, evilpie, gatso + redbull

you all have a slice each. Will send pm with shipping details when I put down my phone and get out of bed to use a real computer.

Bongo just missed out, sorry. Also have someone by pm on reserve list.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 12:29:40 PM »

redsimon, paulhouk, daveshoelace, evilpie, gatso + redbull

you all have a slice each. Will send pm with shipping details when I put down my phone and get out of bed to use a real computer.

Bongo just missed out, sorry. Also have someone by pm on reserve list.



Good luck with this, with been 1 reserve made sure you win some mad ones but save some for me please
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 12:58:18 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 01:26:33 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »

orly?
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