Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[djsunset]

I'd like to see

- Any company that has profited as a result of this (through commission, or any other means) to sort out GreekStein's dad with a couple of nice comps to a sporting event.  The guy sounds fantastic, and it would be nice if there was a small silver lining to come from the cloud of being told your son had just lost you your 5k/summer holiday,  on father's day.

- Blatch voluntarily close any remaining betting accounts he has left open.  (Any bookmaker or exchange that still has his account left open, bearing in mind pretty much all of them will have seen this thread by now, is a King Canute).  The gambling spiralled out of control, and ended up sucking in other people to a downward spiral.  

- Any betting exchange which gained commission from these bets to refund the commission.  Its not fair if 100k is scammed off people, and 80k goes to other gamblers whilst 20k goes in commission to the exchanges.  I obviously suspect the vast majority of commission paid is to betfair and not betdaq, wbx or others, but this is dirty money that you are not entitled to.  There is corporate responsibility, and where a massive reported 120k grimming scam has just claimed a large number of victims, its a little tasteless to say "that was great, we made 20 large in commission from those bets".  How bad would it look if the papers reported this, a 120k scam, where 20k of the money ripped off the victims ended up lining the pockets of the providers of these markets which facilitated the grim in the first place.  I would say exactly the same thing about this being dirty money, no matter which exchange had facilitated these bets, and its obvious that if people have been ripped of to the tune of £120,000, you shouldn't be trousering 20k of that.  It isn't money taken off profits, its money that is from a dirty tainted source, that it turns out you never had any right to include in the year's nominal profits.  
 
- Why was there no-one who spotted the money being dumped into one account from another.  If it had happened on just one day, then fair enough, but its unforgiveable it happened on separate occasions.  How many other accounts are freely breaking money-laundering rules, and are any of those accounts creating real victims like this case has?

- The best thing overall would also be if Blatch's family posted on here as independent intermediaries, with a focus on the best possible way to repay investors as much as possible, whilst also protecting Blatch's welfare.  

- As I understand the current situation, no-one from betfair has yet called Blatch to have a chat about the 120k and all these bets.  If this isn't bringing betting exchanges into disrepute, I don't know what is.  Its about time somebody from betfair actually did.

[OhMy]

There is definitely a case. Ken Broad conned people out of money for gambling and did 15 months

[Jon MW]

if u really want to get back at this prick the best thing to do would be to right off the money and report his behaviour to his iva supervisor would be instantly be forced to declare him legally bankrupt and fuck his chances of ever getting a decent job again.    You have no chance of getting this money so dont even entertain ideas.

I think he's probably telling the truth that he's genuinely broke now, so aren't they going to investigate when he fails with his IVA payments?

[Amatay]

Mther fker is online atm...

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Date Registered:    August 26, 2008, 12:28:53 PM
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[stupidrubbish]

- The best thing overall would also be if Blatch's family posted on here as independent intermediaries, with a focus on the best possible way to repay investors as much as possible, whilst also protecting Blatch's welfare.  

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10882

[Jon MW]

Mther fker is online atm...

Name:     Blatch
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Date Registered:    August 26, 2008, 12:28:53 PM
Last Active:    Today at 07:18:36 PM

He was reading this thread a bit ago

[JustinTime]

if u really want to get back at this prick the best thing to do would be to right off the money and report his behavior to his iva supervisor would be instantly be forced to declare him legally bankrupt and fuck his chances of ever getting a decent job again.    You have no chance of getting this money so don't even entertain ideas.

This sounds good, if you really don't expect to see the money again - and why would you? He is still flicking the fingers at ya.

If you do go down the road of taking money off his parents, (sic) then that's maybe who you should be negotiating with BEFORE they hand him a pot of cash. The guy is obviously so delusional, he may just think ' a month on Betfair and I'll get it all back, cos I'm soooo good a trader innit' I bet he still believes his own bull shit.

By his parents paying you directly - no IVA business would complicate things.

[snake_eyes]

Guys, been a lurker on your forum for a while but not really a poster, my allegiance lies on another forum but amatay can vouch for me.
Firstly can I just say how sick it makes me feel reading this thread, this is truly shocking.
Secondly, I believe the Police have been informed. Good, as this is clearly a fraud by false representation. I will not quote legal definitions but I am pretty qualified in these matters as I am a serving Police Officer.
I sincerely hope that this matter is resolved for all the investors and if I can offer any advice just let me know.

[treefella]

As you are reading what is being written about you Neil why dont you do a well type thread and answer the many questions truthfully that will be put to you? This would go in your favour when you are in front of the judge imo.

[Dubai]

I think someone should inform the police. This looks serious

[Palawan]

He was reading this thread a bit ago

He needs to know what you are doing/thinking of doing as this will directly influence what he does/says.

[ACE2M]

I think someone should inform the police. This looks serious

 

[sammysosehje]

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[ACE2M]

what odds he's got 20k on spain to win the world cup on the other account? he might have 100k in 30 days or so if he has.

[adammarkpreston]

Right then this is my genuine answer to all of you now,

1. He clearly has no idea who invested him and how much they have, as clearly put in his message to certain people on facebook
2. In my opinon he is trying to buy some more time here and hoping the police will not come after him which i inform everyone who invested in him to do so
3. If it went to court anyway no doubt his iva agreement says he has to provide pay slips or letters from the dole and declare other money, which i bet he hasnt another reson he wont want the police involved
4. DO NOT GIVE HIM YOUR BANK DETAILS AT ALL, Some one got hold of my account details last year and set up direct debits coming out of my account into there account. I noticed quite quickly and managed to get my details changed and i still havnt recieved the money back either (Just a warning)
5. If your willing to contact him to see if he will pay up ask for a cheque only or a postal order with your name on the top of it, that way he has no chance at all of doing anything to your accounts.
6. Hes biding time like number 2
7. He was scamming from the beginning, as he was betting on things not agreed i.e tennis,golf,darts and betting in play. Also he lied about near enough every single figure he made/lost on a game and bet on more games
8. Hes clearly dumped money into other accounts, which Betfair may be able to help trace that down
9. He hasnt deposited into that account for god knows how long so where is the WSOP and other investers money gone since then? Thats what i would be wanting to know
10. DO NOT talk about any legal actions in here and what he could/could not say as we know he is reading and could use this so dont mention anything legal just inform the police, the more people that go the better and when this goes to court you all print of his message saying he would get the money to you in 30 days and if hes telling the truth they will make sure you get the money, if not they will hold that against him when his sentencing comes in
11. He wouldnt need 30 days at all biding more time
12. I know your reading this Neil probably laughing at everyone you ripped of and you would of kept this going if you wasnt caught out so shame on you you prick
13. Mods here check when he logs in the IP address to make sure its still in England and the slimey git hasnt got out of the country, this is not illegal and very easy to track down the exact address
14. Sorry once again guys