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[George2Loose]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

[kinboshi]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

I've lost a chunk of money and also considered blatch to be a friend, so I felt sick when it all came to light.

But that must be nothing compared to what he's done to you.  Really am gutted for you, and think you've made the right decision to cut him completely out of your life so you can move forward.

[easypickings]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

Really well said George, the past few days must have been awful for you.

One word that keeps on jumping out at me on the thread is "balla." Basically, it's just means using money in wasteful and pointless ways. It looks like one of Neil's motivations was that he wanted to be considered balla by everyone. It's only my personal opinion, and I know it's different to most, but I think it's a real shame that the poker community loves this word, and finds being balla an admirable trait in somoeone.

[easypickings]

Amazing work Chris, it must have taken you ages. Thanks v. much

[Ginger]

Really well said George, the past few days must have been awful for you.

One word that keeps on jumping out at me on the thread is "balla." Basically, it's just means using money in wasteful and pointless ways. It looks like one of Neil's motivations was that he wanted to be considered balla by everyone. It's only my personal opinion, and I know it's different to most, but I think it's a real shame that the poker community loves this word, and finds being balla an admirable trait in somoeone.

Nice to see someone else thinking 'balla' isn't a thing to aspire to, I actually lose a lot of respect for anyone acting in this way, I think it's quite sickening tbh.

[Girgy85]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

good post buddy!

[DaveShoelace]

Just had a lol conversation with a poker media buddy of mine, it seems Neil was all set to write a series of articles on Rush Poker for a magazine, thankfully they have seen the thread and pulled them.

[George2Loose]

Just had a lol conversation with a poker media buddy of mine, it seems Neil was all set to write a series of articles on Rush Poker for a magazine, thankfully they have seen the thread and pulled them.

Yeh he told me about this

[Chili]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

So much has been said already but just wanted to say George that I am so pleased that you came to the above conclusion and posted the above.  You took the original stance to help him because you are a genuine, loving and decent human being and beyond all the hurt you felt you still took his feelings into account.

You have all acted so admirably during this mess and I for one just hope he gets what is coming to him!

[Micko]

Just been reading through Floppys post there and the links provided and on a few occassions Rookie and the shrewdies mention busto rumours and the like did they know more than the rest or was it just ''banter'' way blatch?

Also on point number 69 i think i can remember blatch starting a thread that night about having a few fun bets on the liverpool game that evening when he bet Torres and Liverpool in alot of different combo bets so possibly him laying them on the stake money late was trying to get a freeroll in his ''fun bets''

[anthonyl]

Good work there noflopshomer.  This missing money could simply have been transferred into his bank account from investors and never left his bank account, hence never making it onto the betfair account??

[dino1980]

Chris, that is unbelievable amount of work, you must be exhausted!

Thank you so much for doing this.

I was bored.

It is much appreciated.  What you've gone through and laid out confirms that he was lying from the start and that anything he's said (and still saying) will bear little or no resemblance to the truth.

Owe you a beer or two Chris.

+1 amazing work chris

[TightEnd]

Well done Chris, thanks very much on behalf of all of us I am sure.

[treefella]

Yesterday was one of the toughest of my life and what I'm about to say is going to be tough too. Looking at Chris's spreadsheet and taking everything into account, I believe this was a scam from the start. Neil, if you're reading this I am sorry but I can't help you anymore. If we were ever friends you will not try to contact me after today. You're not the person I thought you were. You have conned, lied and cheated not just from randoms but from your closest friends.

I am sorry for those who have lost out. I am not going to ask Neil to ever repay me. Call it a parting gift- my friendship to you actually meant something to me.

Please can I ask that no one contact me re Neil or anything on here. I wanted to help but I have to look after my own family now. If there's one good thing to come out of this I've realised more than ever how much my wife and kids mean to me.

So much has been said already but just wanted to say George that I am so pleased that you came to the above conclusion and posted the above.  You took the original stance to help him because you are a genuine, loving and decent human being and beyond all the hurt you felt you still took his feelings into account.

You have all acted so admirably during this mess and I for one just hope he gets what is coming to him!

+1

[neildawson]

I considered PM'ing some Blonde friends for a summary of all this to save me having to read it all but with a few hundred invested, I feel I owed it to myself to give the long-read a go. I made it to page 45 and was keeping an eye on the most recent stuff from around page 95. NoFlopsHomer seems to have nailed it and I will now be skipping around 45 pages. Thanks for saving me this time and for all your time and efforts past and future.

I'm not going to moan or even be upset with how things have gone down as I know many are worse off than me. I'm obv upset to read the effect this has had on so many Blondes individually and any future effects it may have on Blonde as a group, though I'm sure we'll come through it just fine. I'm most gutted for George and fully understand why he's cutting all ties with Neil.

As for Neil ... well, I hope he gets the help he so obviously needs.