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« Reply #1815 on: June 21, 2010, 11:19:42 PM » |
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really? for a conman is gaining trust not a skill?
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« Reply #1816 on: June 21, 2010, 11:20:20 PM » |
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yea its obv your still raging, but you dont seem thick, how did this guy outsmart or whatever you want to call it so many collective brain cells?
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« Reply #1817 on: June 21, 2010, 11:20:32 PM » |
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yea its obv your still raging, but you dont seem thick, how did this guy outsmart or whatever you want to call it so many collective brain cells?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroupthinkIf you subscribe to the theory it's been responsible for far worse decisions than giving money to a degenerate gambler to do what he wants with. |
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'The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.'
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« Reply #1818 on: June 21, 2010, 11:20:55 PM » |
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iv read it all silo
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« Reply #1819 on: June 21, 2010, 11:21:06 PM » |
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really? for a conman is gaining trust not a skill?
It's not intelligence And having read something on the psychology of conmen it isn't something they learn - they're just born with it, it's connected to sociopathic tendencies. |
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5 Star HORSE Classic - 2007 Razz Champion
2007 WSOP Razz - 13/341
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« Reply #1820 on: June 21, 2010, 11:22:42 PM » |
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Sammy, you don't sound very clever yourself. Perhaps you should leave this thread alone before you start upsetting people.
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« Reply #1821 on: June 21, 2010, 11:24:00 PM » |
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with all due respect i dont think the investors were above average in terms of the key thing - understand betfair. I think the scammer deliberately targetted people with great poker knowledge but little knowledge of betfair. I am pretty sure if i had asked him for an investment in it he would have declined because he would have known i would be quizzing him about results straight away and it would ruin the bigger picture. From my understand noone involved in this is a sports bettor first and poker player 2nd.
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« Reply #1822 on: June 21, 2010, 11:26:03 PM » |
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It worked for him because everyone is too nice here and crucially, not aware of the subject matter - he'd not have lasted five minutes on the betfair forum with this scam and none of them would last five minutes trying to scam poker stakes here - know your audience. The unhelpful lesson is trust is not enough, if you don't know the subject find out before you put in.
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« Reply #1823 on: June 21, 2010, 11:26:55 PM » |
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The scam wasn't smart or even elaborate, the investors were naive, life lessons are seldom cheap.
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« Reply #1824 on: June 21, 2010, 11:30:14 PM » |
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i understand what you are saying, but picking a naive target audience not a skill too?
picking poker players, who themselves have a big ego generally to invest in a shrewd investment, very trusting, with plenty of disposable finanace.
was this luck, or is blatch being underestimated as just a degen rather than a potent scammer?
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« Reply #1825 on: June 21, 2010, 11:30:36 PM » |
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These new posters are tillting me soooo hard. GTFO!
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There is no better feeling than rocking up in a city for the first time, with nowhere to stay and everything new - so liberating.
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« Reply #1826 on: June 21, 2010, 11:30:48 PM » |
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It worked for him because everyone is too nice here and crucially, not aware of the subject matter - he'd not have lasted five minutes on the betfair forum with this scam and none of them would last five minutes trying to scam poker stakes here - know your audience. The unhelpful lesson is trust is not enough, if you don't know the subject find out before you put in.
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« Reply #1827 on: June 21, 2010, 11:34:13 PM » |
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Might it be an idea to lock the thread for 12 hours or something?
i.e. not close it, more like suspend it.
This means that people like me who aren't directly effected don't get to keep up with what is a grim, but reasonably solid storyline - but I think the majority of the constructive comment that could be added has been added already.
People will want to know what's going on, even if they're not part of the staking, but suspending the thread might kill off some of the passing interest.
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« Reply #1828 on: June 21, 2010, 11:35:12 PM » |
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« Reply #1829 on: June 21, 2010, 11:36:16 PM » |
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he is obv both. A massive degen who become very skilled in scamming to fuel the former after the IVA cut off all other financial resources/credit in 2007.
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