Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[redsimon]

Re: WSOP fake stake.

Blatch PM'd me last night asking for my bank details. text of PM was similar to that sent to Football stakers.

As I funded him via FTP I sent him the user id there. Not holding my breath on getting it back tho'.

Update:

He's PM'd me back despite being offline?

States his online poker accounts closed...wants address(!) or my bank details (!!)...tell you what Neil ( as I'm sure you're reading this. When you have the £ equivilent of $260 give it to Rupinder and I'll get it off him next time we are both at DtD

[George2Loose]

pokernutz do i know you? Pm me if so

[at_the_bar_d2d]

A true story about Neil Blatchly, A couple of years back before Neil’s Bristol win he used to play at a casino that I use to grind at. We had spent about 3 Saturday nights at the same table. We chatted, he told me about his day job and we got on well. On the 4th Saturday we both ended up at the same table again, at about midnight I went broke (in for £700) I told the table I was going to go home reload and I’d be back (about an hours round trip) Neil would nt here of it, he went to the cash point got £300 out and told me to give it back to him next weekend.

I was amazed, I ended the night £7 up and a friendship commenced. Now onto current events, I understand people’s disappointment over their losses but lets be under no illusion money was paid to him with the knowledge that it was going to be gambled, by the very nature of the word gamble there are no guarantees.

Yes, he could have warned people that it wasn’t going well, he could have stopped taking money and loosing more. But all of us that play poker know what its like when you are chasing, you know you are making bad decisions but we still chase. I’m sure Neil was in the “chasing” zone

Neil is a good guy with a big heart that has made a mess of his life, no amount of name calling or threats are going to resolve the situation. Just think for one minute what it would be like to be Neil, right now, just imagine the pressure that he must have been under for months. His life is ruined, by his own doing? Yes. Of course if he had won over the past year he would have been a hero, but as we all know a gamble can go one way or another. For my part I hope Neil is well and can find a place where he can rebuild his life.

[wilfuljoker]

A true story about Neil Blatchly, A couple of years back before Neil’s Bristol win he used to play at a casino that I use to grind at. We had spent about 3 Saturday nights at the same table. We chatted, he told me about his day job and we got on well. On the 4th Saturday we both ended up at the same table again, at about midnight I went broke (in for £700) I told the table I was going to go home reload and I’d be back (about an hours round trip) Neil would nt here of it, he went to the cash point got £300 out and told me to give it back to him next weekend.

I was amazed, I ended the night £7 up and a friendship commenced. Now onto current events, I understand people’s disappointment over their losses but lets be under no illusion money was paid to him with the knowledge that it was going to be gambled, by the very nature of the word gamble there are no guarantees.

Yes, he could have warned people that it wasn’t going well, he could have stopped taking money and loosing more. But all of us that play poker know what its like when you are chasing, you know you are making bad decisions but we still chase. I’m sure Neil was in the “chasing” zone

Neil is a good guy with a big heart that has made a mess of his life, no amount of name calling or threats are going to resolve the situation. Just think for one minute what it would be like to be Neil, right now, just imagine the pressure that he must have been under for months. His life is ruined, by his own doing? Yes. Of course if he had won over the past year he would have been a hero, but as we all know a gamble can go one way or another. For my part I hope Neil is well and can find a place where he can rebuild his life.

Did you know that most successful cons begin by letting people believe that they are going to be better off and trust-inducing acts such as asking someone to hold money for them or take something much more valuable as security is the hook that pulls people in?

[Horneris]

money was paid to him with the knowledge that it was going to be gambled

No it wasn't, he promised to trade with the money not gamble.

Of course if he had won over the past year he would have been a hero, but as we all know a gamble can go one way or another.

A) He said he had won over the past year and was a hero but was lying through his teeth.

B) Again, he wasnt gambling, he was trading. Trading were he could never lose feasibly lose more than say a quarter of the bankroll in one trade and backers could request their funds back at any point.

C) Yawn.

[bookiebasher]

Got my pm on blonde from blatch . Really glad he has seen sense and agreed to pay everyone.
Always thought he was a good lad.
Dont post very often , quite a private person  ( surprising being a bookie I know   ) but here is
my story.
Knew blatch for a couple of years and out the blue last november he said he would like an account.
Normally it's a NO because it's not worth the hassle of chasing people for money. However , with blatch being
so " balla " as the kidz put it I thought it would be interesting to see how he made his money  
His mate also wanted an account ( think his name was kev ) but I was too shrewd , smelt a rat , and declined
unless he deposited first. Clever me eh !
Soon got an inkling blatch was not as rich as he made out when he collered me up DTD for £100 he had won
on his account in the first week.
To cut a long story short he ran up xxxx debt and told him if he wanted any more bets ( was cheltenham week )
that he had to get tab down. Various excuses followed which I have heard a million times.
He didn't reach the limit I had set and he managed to reduce the debt by over 50%, by gambling.However his betting
patterns and staking didnt make any sense and were totally random. I came to the conclusion he was a degen
gambler full stop.
Was very concerned for people in his staking thread , thought he was deffo using fund for his own personal
betting, but had a dillema with client confidentiality and never really thought he would blow the lot.
When Arbboy posted I knew the game was up for him and would have posted in support of Arbboy but
the abuse Arbboy got , totally unjustified in my opinion , made me think I would get the same treatment.
Arbboy might have been aggresive in his posts but he asked all the right questions , with no answers.

On the way forward , blatch is totally dillusional , and blackpool have more chance of winning the premiership
than people have of seeing any money off him.
Just put it down to another of life's experiences and move on.

[JustinTime]

Thanks for posting that Pokernutz.

When I read the first post about the threats he received, I kinda felt for him a tiny bit - well more for his family really. I don't know why,( they might be scum too for all I know) human nature I guess. Then a split second later I was thinking what a fkin coward the guy is. He lies and steals from his Friends - forced to own up, promises the earth, AVOIDS THE LAW and then all of a sudden  - HE's the victim and HE's getting protection.

(((NB. I do not condone violent recourse in anyway and would prefer to hear he is banged up for a year or two. Then again, I'm not a religious man - but I respect the views others might have ;-)))

So you say he was stealing from the tax payer too? Well that's going to include a lot of rAndoms posting here.

On another subject. Thank you mods for your welcome and links to other interesting parts of this forum. Seems I will be around a while - as the tikay blog is over 1200 pages!!! Maybe even, sometime soon, I'll be whipping some Blondie ass at O H\L.

i thought i would let peeps now on this forum that i was in touch with blacth over the last few days as he owed allot of money to some investor's i know .......

then at 630 last night there was a knock at my door ...(hum mm who could this be i thought)  

there was a lovely looking lady and gent standing there..( thought they may have wanted group sex lol)

but no you got it peeps our local hero,s the C.I.D come to ask a few questions about somebody reportedly threatening Neil and his family (all lies not once had he been threatened just would he meet up and have a cup of tea and a scone with them ) they  then confirmed that he had not mentioned he had ripped people of thousands of pounds to pay for a Jekyll and Hyde life style.
fucking more like{ i wont to be  Neil channing  } Neil the sumbag blach burn in hell  did say that there was an incident regarding a  betfair account  ......................  so i had no choice but to put our friends in the whole picture they couldn't believe what they where hearing and are going to investigate further
 they have given me contact information to give to investors to get in touch
 i cannot give this out on the forums but if any investors would like the number please pm and i shall pass this information on to you


So Just like to say to Neil if he reads this you are lower than a pedophile in my eyes and i make you a promise that i shall help you every way i can lets start by going to the socail security about you have been signing on for the  2+ years  every second Monday at 2.30 Newark street job centre how do i know this because i used to be there at the same time remember sitting there laughing about the 65 a week plus rent they pay you and yes folk's i am talking he was there 4 Mondays ago . and has for the money he was playing snooker last Thursday with about £5000 in his pocket still acting like Neil channing

thanks for taking the time to read this    

[Woodsey]

Ok, there is a lot of random talk on here, but very little in terms of strategy to get any money back.

If Neil is serious about trying to pay people back(which he might be), taking the piss/calling him a twat etc does not seem to be the best strategy for getting anything back. He might just think fk it I'm off in to the sunset, I'm not saying that isn't already the case. However, if everyone takes the 'my money's gone' attitude he might just decide he can get away without paying a bean back.

I think discussions need to be focussed on a strategy for how to get paid if he plans to. Firstly, do we really send out bank details? If not could we negotiate a better way to do it?

Discuss............

[wilfuljoker]

pokernutz do i know you? Pm me if so

George I've been a member of this forum for a couple of years but am not an active member.  I don't know you but we did sit at same table at Notts Gala last year.  I notice you quoted a post of mine from another forum which is why I thought I'd try to contact you.  I made just a single post to see if I made 10 posts but I haven't .  So I don't have enough posts and am not going to start spamming so I can pm you.  Just to say that I have a lot of experience in this field and if you want to ask any questions about understanding why he might have done what he did that can help you come to terms with the enormous betrayal you must be feeling then please pm me (not sure I can get them on here but you can do it at the other forum).  I can also help to explain the legal process if necessary.  This offer also applies to any other close friends of Neil.  I don't however want to get into a discussion of it on an open forum.  (Tighty, I think you may know how to contact me and I trust you to pass on my e-mail to anyone you think could use it.)

I make this offer because you have been the victims of a particularly nasty crime that will make you question your judgement, look harder at other friends and have to deal with the rippple effect on your own finances which may effect your other relationships.  Don't underestimate the impact of this.

[TightEnd]

pokernutz do i know you? Pm me if so

George I've been a member of this forum for a couple of years but am not an active member.  I don't know you but we did sit at same table at Notts Gala last year.  I notice you quoted a post of mine from another forum which is why I thought I'd try to contact you.  I made just a single post to see if I made 10 posts but I haven't .  So I don't have enough posts and am not going to start spamming so I can pm you.  Just to say that I have a lot of experience in this field and if you want to ask any questions about understanding why he might have done what he did that can help you come to terms with the enormous betrayal you must be feeling then please pm me (not sure I can get them on here but you can do it at the other forum).  I can also help to explain the legal process if necessary.  This offer also applies to any other close friends of Neil.  I don't however want to get into a discussion of it on an open forum.  (Tighty, I think you may know how to contact me and I trust you to pass on my e-mail to anyone you think could use it.)

I make this offer because you have been the victims of a particularly nasty crime that will make you question your judgement, look harder at other friends and have to deal with the rippple effect on your own finances which may effect your other relationships.  Don't underestimate the impact of this.

Just to check you are Judi from Bristol?

Hello by the way.

[wilfuljoker]

Yes, its Judi from Bristol.  And hi to you too.  You're doing a good job here!

[Girgy85]

Got my pm on blonde from blatch . Really glad he has seen sense and agreed to pay everyone.
Always thought he was a good lad.
Dont post very often , quite a private person  ( surprising being a bookie I know   ) but here is
my story.
Knew blatch for a couple of years and out the blue last november he said he would like an account.
Normally it's a NO because it's not worth the hassle of chasing people for money. However , with blatch being
so " balla " as the kidz put it I thought it would be interesting to see how he made his money  
His mate also wanted an account ( think his name was kev ) but I was too shrewd , smelt a rat , and declined
unless he deposited first. Clever me eh !
Soon got an inkling blatch was not as rich as he made out when he collered me up DTD for £100 he had won
on his account in the first week.
To cut a long story short he ran up xxxx debt and told him if he wanted any more bets ( was cheltenham week )
that he had to get tab down. Various excuses followed which I have heard a million times.
He didn't reach the limit I had set and he managed to reduce the debt by over 50%, by gambling.However his betting
patterns and staking didnt make any sense and were totally random. I came to the conclusion he was a degen
gambler full stop.
Was very concerned for people in his staking thread , thought he was deffo using fund for his own personal
betting, but had a dillema with client confidentiality and never really thought he would blow the lot.
When Arbboy posted I knew the game was up for him and would have posted in support of Arbboy but
the abuse Arbboy got , totally unjustified in my opinion , made me think I would get the same treatment.
Arbboy might have been aggresive in his posts but he asked all the right questions , with no answers.

On the way forward , blatch is totally dillusional , and blackpool have more chance of winning the premiership
than people have of seeing any money off him.
Just put it down to another of life's experiences and move on.

What odds will you give that everybody will get their money back?

[StuartHopkin]

Its fine giving out bank details, many companies just print them on their invoices as it makes little difference.

I dont honestly believe anyone will get a penny back though, its just unrealistic to think that he can raise any sort of money.

Anyone who thinks he played the balla act well needs to pay more attention to details. The man only had one white hoody that he wore week in week out FFS.

Im not ovelry interested in posting much on this thread as I know many of my views wont go down to well but I just want to say again that in no way has this effected my thoughts of Rupinder, as a few people know I went off Blatch a long time ago but Rupinder is one of the people who makes me grateful for ever posting on BlondePoker. They may have always been everywhere together but they are like chalk and cheese.

[pokernutz]

i think that maybe everyone who is finacially involved or has any decent ideas (i know i do ) all meet at say dee tee dee or where ever  to talk/plan a resolve. may be tighty can set the time place

[bookiebasher]

If I got my money back I would give it to the blonde mods for all the hassle they have had
to put up with.
I don't offer odds on dead certs