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« Reply #450 on: December 03, 2010, 05:50:49 AM »

sorry to be the party pooper but On hussey to make a century again


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« Reply #451 on: December 03, 2010, 06:13:21 AM »

tht is huge wicket!!!
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« Reply #452 on: December 03, 2010, 06:13:57 AM »

Yessss, Swanie!! Get in there..

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« Reply #453 on: December 03, 2010, 06:18:31 AM »

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« Reply #454 on: December 03, 2010, 06:23:12 AM »

Great time to pick up a couple of wickets, but the referral system is an absolute nonsense a lot of the time. Harris knows 100% that he's hit that, and everyone else knows it as well since otherwise he wouldn't refer it.

In cases like this you actually get a worse decision with the referral system than you do without. Without referrals, the umpire gives it and everyone says 'ah well, might have hit it might have not, but swings and roundabouts etc etc' - with referrals everyone knows the decision is wrong but there's not enough evidence to overturn it. And the team doing the referring lose a referral, even though they were right...
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« Reply #455 on: December 03, 2010, 06:28:34 AM »

blatent inside edge there, the pakistani team must have had a bet on though so the wicket still stands!!!!BOOOOOOOOOOOM COME ON SWANNAAAAAAY
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« Reply #456 on: December 03, 2010, 09:17:35 AM »

What was Ponting fuming about at the end?
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« Reply #457 on: December 03, 2010, 11:08:57 AM »

Excellent stuff, fell asleep at Lunch first bit of the series I have missed, meh.

Aussies are at least 150 short on this track, bat all day tomorrow and significant portion of the 3rd day plz.

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« Reply #458 on: December 03, 2010, 12:25:57 PM »

usually i would say i wouldnt wanna have to chase to many last on a pitch against australia. im really not concerned, imo we declare over night on zero, bowl them out again 2moro, and knock off the runs on day 3 so we dont have to worry about batting on day 4/5 pitch
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« Reply #459 on: December 03, 2010, 01:05:26 PM »

Great time to pick up a couple of wickets, but the referral system is an absolute nonsense a lot of the time. Harris knows 100% that he's hit that, and everyone else knows it as well since otherwise he wouldn't refer it.

In cases like this you actually get a worse decision with the referral system than you do without. Without referrals, the umpire gives it and everyone says 'ah well, might have hit it might have not, but swings and roundabouts etc etc' - with referrals everyone knows the decision is wrong but there's not enough evidence to overturn it. And the team doing the referring lose a referral, even though they were right...

I wasn't watching live but If you have 2 referrals and 3 wickets left and the rest are bunnies I think you're going to be referring close to 100% of decisions.
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« Reply #460 on: December 03, 2010, 01:07:48 PM »

Great time to pick up a couple of wickets, but the referral system is an absolute nonsense a lot of the time. Harris knows 100% that he's hit that, and everyone else knows it as well since otherwise he wouldn't refer it.

In cases like this you actually get a worse decision with the referral system than you do without. Without referrals, the umpire gives it and everyone says 'ah well, might have hit it might have not, but swings and roundabouts etc etc' - with referrals everyone knows the decision is wrong but there's not enough evidence to overturn it. And the team doing the referring lose a referral, even though they were right...

I wasn't watching live but If you have 2 referrals and 3 wickets left and the rest are bunnies I think you're going to be referring close to 100% of decisions.

Yeah, I take your point, but it was obvious that he was referring it because he knew he wasn't out, rather than on the off chance.
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« Reply #461 on: December 03, 2010, 01:18:08 PM »

really struggling with the crossword today, 10 down: Australian start to an innings (2,4,3)
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« Reply #462 on: December 03, 2010, 01:39:08 PM »

the referral system is not being used in the way it was designed....its being used far more as a game of tactics ("they're 12-3 and if we can get another one now we're in great shape, even if its only 10% to be overturned") than a game of "that's obviously wrong, we must overturn it"

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is a poorly thought out systen
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« Reply #463 on: December 03, 2010, 02:22:43 PM »

the referral system is not being used in the way it was designed....its being used far more as a game of tactics ("they're 12-3 and if we can get another one now we're in great shape, even if its only 10% to be overturned") than a game of "that's obviously wrong, we must overturn it"

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is a poorly thought out systen

Does the coaches' challenge system in NFL get used in the same, tactical way?
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« Reply #464 on: December 03, 2010, 02:25:48 PM »

the referral system is not being used in the way it was designed....its being used far more as a game of tactics ("they're 12-3 and if we can get another one now we're in great shape, even if its only 10% to be overturned") than a game of "that's obviously wrong, we must overturn it"

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is a poorly thought out systen

I think it works pretty well tbh, I don't see a problem with tactical use.

That was an interesting one with Harris last night though, I think its likely he did feather the ball but the conclusive evidence was not there to overturn the decision.
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