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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2010, 01:49:41 AM »

George. I'm trying to learn from this PHA thing. Maybe he wont fold JJ to a small re-raise. Maybe he wont fold jj to a 5.5k raise. I really dont know. Villiian was described as tight passive. Is re-raising all-in the best option here? I'm not so sure. What's wrong with folding if you truly believe that you're a 4 /1 dog?

4 bet folding is turning your hand into a bluff- u may as well have total air to play the hand this way
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2010, 04:23:13 AM »

Good question. I'm going to go for the re-raise to 4000 option. If he re-raises all-in, i would then fold. If you re-raise to 4000 i think he will fold the pairs you are beating and call with AK or AK suited.
 I'm just thinking that if you flat call, you could end up losing the lot on the flop if he does have AA or KK. At least by re-raising to 4000 you should find out if he has aces or kings.
 I think if you ship it pre you will only be called by AA or KK.
I know i'm prob being too nitty, but i just think that if you flat call you are going to be in a very tough spot post flop unless another queen falls.

just disregard anything this guy has to say unless its a level, if it is ill put a poster of him on my wall and send him a whore for his bday
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2010, 09:09:12 AM »

George. I'm trying to learn from this PHA thing. Maybe he wont fold JJ to a small re-raise. Maybe he wont fold jj to a 5.5k raise. I really dont know. Villiian was described as tight passive. Is re-raising all-in the best option here? I'm not so sure. What's wrong with folding if you truly believe that you're a 4 /1 dog?

4 bet folding is turning your hand into a bluff- u may as well have total air to play the hand this way
I dont think i would ever 4bet fold QQ in this comp at this stage with my chips
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2010, 10:04:05 AM »

George. I'm trying to learn from this PHA thing. Maybe he wont fold JJ to a small re-raise. Maybe he wont fold jj to a 5.5k raise. I really dont know. Villiian was described as tight passive. Is re-raising all-in the best option here? I'm not so sure. What's wrong with folding if you truly believe that you're a 4 /1 dog?

4 bet folding is turning your hand into a bluff- u may as well have total air to play the hand this way
I dont think i would ever 4bet fold QQ

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2010, 10:12:05 AM »

George. I'm trying to learn from this PHA thing. Maybe he wont fold JJ to a small re-raise. Maybe he wont fold jj to a 5.5k raise. I really dont know. Villiian was described as tight passive. Is re-raising all-in the best option here? I'm not so sure. What's wrong with folding if you truly believe that you're a 4 /1 dog?

4 bet folding is turning your hand into a bluff- u may as well have total air to play the hand this way
I dont think i would ever 4bet fold QQ

fyp
Why would i 4 bet fold having put 40% of my stack in still 70 from the money in this comp?
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2010, 11:46:02 AM »

Good question. I'm going to go for the re-raise to 4000 option. If he re-raises all-in, i would then fold. If you re-raise to 4000 i think he will fold the pairs you are beating and call with AK or AK suited.
 I'm just thinking that if you flat call, you could end up losing the lot on the flop if he does have AA or KK. At least by re-raising to 4000 you should find out if he has aces or kings.
 I think if you ship it pre you will only be called by AA or KK.
I know i'm prob being too nitty, but i just think that if you flat call you are going to be in a very tough spot post flop unless another queen falls.

just disregard anything this guy has to say unless its a level, if it is ill put a poster of him on my wall and send him a whore for his bday
Unfortunately, my birthday isn't 'till next year and you certainly wouldn't enjoy having a poster of me on your bedroom wall.

Besides, no, i wasn't levelling. I was simply trying to find out if there was a better way of playing this particular hand apart from re raising all in. I still dont like the flat call option. I can appreciate the argument for never 4 bet folding qq in this particular scenario, but at the same time i dont see any problem with having a serious look at if there are alternative options worth considering.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2010, 01:08:38 AM »

You played the hand well op.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2010, 05:28:08 AM »

i could see myself 4 bet/folding QQ hemillion

the rage you really do not want him to fold JJ or TT when you have QQ. it is possible that vs certain opponents you will make them fold those hand by 4 betting, but this shouldnt be what you were trying to accomplish by 4 betting...we would be 4 betting for value/trying to get it all in.

and what makes u so sure he is folding TT/JJ but calling AK to a 4000 4bet?
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2010, 10:04:39 AM »

Cheers for the helpful replies.
So, basically, in this scenario-
    We have to accept the if he has AA or KK we're prob going busto however we play it
    We want JJ and TT to stick around, together with AK
    We should never be 4 bet folding QQ
Think i'm with you now. UL Eso. GG.
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2013, 10:17:10 AM »

Good question. I'm going to go for the re-raise to 4000 option. If he re-raises all-in, i would then fold. If you re-raise to 4000 i think he will fold the pairs you are beating and call with AK or AK suited.
 I'm just thinking that if you flat call, you could end up losing the lot on the flop if he does have AA or KK. At least by re-raising to 4000 you should find out if he has aces or kings.
 I think if you ship it pre you will only be called by AA or KK.
I know i'm prob being too nitty, but i just think that if you flat call you are going to be in a very tough spot post flop unless another queen falls.

just disregard anything this guy has to say unless its a level, if it is ill put a poster of him on my wall and send him a whore for his bday

Sorry for the bump but found rich post hilarious!
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