Apology to Tikay.

[CRIPPIN]

Not been on for a while so to save me trawling through:

Who is Kev and VERY briefly, what did he do?

Thanks everyone.....think I got it now  

[StuartHopkin]

Personally I think the fact that this is a supposed community and many members have stated they no longer trust you or want you around here should be enough to have your modship removed.

I dare say that there are plenty of members of this "supposed community" that no longer like,trust or want around the place all the spineless,creepy little priks that watched the video of a fellow member of their community being sexually assaulted but sit back and said nothing either.

Do you advocate all of them hitting the road as well or is it just the matter of modship you have a problem with? They are fine remaining as active members of the "community" as long as they're not moderators?

Everyone on here is welcome to conduct themselves 100% as they wish away from the forum? Would you not agree.

Where as Jane has used the blonde forum as a weapon, which I feel should not be allowed.

P.s. Are you assuming I am close to the group you refer to as 'spineless, creepy little priks' ?

1. Not quite,I would hope any forum would ban members who are convicted of crimes of a certain nature.Ae you saying you would be ok with murderers,paedophiles,etc posting as members because their crimes would have been committed away from the forum?

2. I'm not sure she has has she? On the face of things she has been the least vocal of anybody throughout everything.It is one word against the other as to whether she abused her position on blonde or did any of the things on the pc she is being accused of but the other party seems unwilling to provide any proof of thse accusations,proof which as stated would be readily available.This party has also thrown their own credibilty into serious doubt after the money "mix-up",which again has not been proven to be a mix-up at all by showing the money rested in his Full Tilt account all the time,as well as some slightly convenient haziness in remembering dates after the original story did not add up.

3. No I am not.

1. I agree with your point. However I couldnt put these people in the same category as those people.

2. I'm not interested in the PM bit. It seems we will never know if she looked or not. I am 100% convinced that her motive was to out him on here and seperate him from something that meant the world to him. I realise other people may not see it that way, but for me it is a definate.

3. Just wanted to check. I havent seen it, and defaintely wouldnt want to.  

[Laxie]

There are people posting questions for Jane who are not involved in any other way (Stu being one) - apart from having questions regarding Jane's position on blonde.  I know this isn't easy for anyone, so gently does it with assumptions.  Whatever about anything else, I definitely don't want fingers pointing in the wrong directions. 

And with that, I'm off to do some housework.  As ye were.

[brummieboy]

Sigh.  And round and round we go.  What started out as an apology to Tikay turns into a hunt for Jane's head, followed by more of the same from the ITB crew & co. - hounding and hunting anyone with an opinion that differs to theirs.  Which in turn forces a reply from me.

I can deal with the taunting and discreet threats being thrown my way.  I never expected any less from you.  Carry on Lads and enjoy while you can.  I'm a nutter.  Not a bit shy and enjoy going out just like everyone else and everyone knows that.  I've even been called 'one of the lads' as I'm not usually phased by the goings on around the place.  So do your worst while you can.  Because you won't bully me.  The people who know me will be capable of picking the truths from your lies.  Anyone who doesn't know me is free to ask and I'll answer any questions I can.

I'm more annoyed with the abuse being thrown in the direction of people who 'dare' to show any support on my behalf.  And it is happening all around us.  On a regular basis.  Publicly and privately.  Is that because you're afraid the 'untouchable' group might in fact have 'landed in it' this time?  

I have been asked to provide proof.  I have been made run through hoops to get that proof.  All the while those mates try to close ranks in hopes of hiding the facts.  Luckily one piece of proof is an 'apology' from the person in question.  Amazing, I know.  All I can guess is they hoped I would drop it after that.  There is also his admission when questioned by the police.  You can spin it any way you like Paul, but this time at least one member of your ranks has messed with the wrong person...and admitted it.

When you're asked to provide proof before punishment for Jane is considered, instead of supplying it, attempts are made to cloud that one very simple request.  Provide proof.  It would be a crying shame if random accusations/assumptions were allowed fly against Jane just because you shouted loudest.

I am so very sorry the rest of you have been dragged through this yet again.  Believe me when I say, if I could wave a magic wand and make this all go away, I'd have it done long ago.  Of that you can be sure.  I'm not even entirely thrilled with this reply because it's from an angry heart.  Suppose it was abound to happen eventually.  Been sad long enough.  

i completely understand you being upset at people saying things against you Dawn,what happened to you is unforgivable...however i have expresed the opinion that i think Jane be demodded and i am in no way part of that crew i have my own mind and have heaerd a great deal from both sides and am still of the same opinion about Jane.

Totally agree with this, can't see how Jane can remain a mod after what she has done don't think its even a hard decision.

Just so I know, what in relation to blonde do you think I have done?

I keep hearing this and will be making a post later on the whole sorry ordeal, but this is really ticking me off. Forget hearsay, forget what you have heard through Chinese whispers, what do you think I have done that constitutes me not being a mod?

Remove what is a private matter between myself and Kev (hard after all the smokescreens have been put in place, granted) but honestly, show me what I personally have done against blonde. Please, it would be very enlightening.

Jane why did it take so long to air your side of the story, the silence didn't help matters.
A lot of people are concerned with data security, as an administrator (mod) of a network (forum) you are in a privileged position and should be seen as completely honest/trustworthy and someone who hacks into someone else's PC to access someones personal files doesn't come across in that manner.

I've no axe to grind with you, Ive only met yourself and Kev a couple of times in person and really liked you both.
However it just comes across as you being vindictive and trying to get some dirt on your ex to hurt him and then passing it to a well known enemy of his, all this despite it being well known that he is at his lowest ebb, left homeless with very little after your split and very poorly mentally.
This could have been dealt with so much better internally, Kev could have got a ban and been allowed to get himself better again and non of us here on blonde needed to know. But my getting Bainn involved yourself ensured it wasn't going to be kept in house.

[CRIPPIN]

Sigh.  And round and round we go.  What started out as an apology to Tikay turns into a hunt for Jane's head, followed by more of the same from the ITB crew & co. - hounding and hunting anyone with an opinion that differs to theirs.  Which in turn forces a reply from me.

I can deal with the taunting and discreet threats being thrown my way.  I never expected any less from you.  Carry on Lads and enjoy while you can.  I'm a nutter.  Not a bit shy and enjoy going out just like everyone else and everyone knows that.  I've even been called 'one of the lads' as I'm not usually phased by the goings on around the place.  So do your worst while you can.  Because you won't bully me.  The people who know me will be capable of picking the truths from your lies.  Anyone who doesn't know me is free to ask and I'll answer any questions I can.

I'm more annoyed with the abuse being thrown in the direction of people who 'dare' to show any support on my behalf.  And it is happening all around us.  On a regular basis.  Publicly and privately.  Is that because you're afraid the 'untouchable' group might in fact have 'landed in it' this time?  

I have been asked to provide proof.  I have been made run through hoops to get that proof.  All the while those mates try to close ranks in hopes of hiding the facts.  Luckily one piece of proof is an 'apology' from the person in question.  Amazing, I know.  All I can guess is they hoped I would drop it after that.  There is also his admission when questioned by the police.  You can spin it any way you like Paul, but this time at least one member of your ranks has messed with the wrong person...and admitted it.

When you're asked to provide proof before punishment for Jane is considered, instead of supplying it, attempts are made to cloud that one very simple request.  Provide proof.  It would be a crying shame if random accusations/assumptions were allowed fly against Jane just because you shouted loudest.

I am so very sorry the rest of you have been dragged through this yet again.  Believe me when I say, if I could wave a magic wand and make this all go away, I'd have it done long ago.  Of that you can be sure.  I'm not even entirely thrilled with this reply because it's from an angry heart.  Suppose it was abound to happen eventually.  Been sad long enough.  

i completely understand you being upset at people saying things against you Dawn,what happened to you is unforgivable...however i have expresed the opinion that i think Jane be demodded and i am in no way part of that crew i have my own mind and have heaerd a great deal from both sides and am still of the same opinion about Jane.

Totally agree with this, can't see how Jane can remain a mod after what she has done don't think its even a hard decision.

Just so I know, what in relation to blonde do you think I have done?

I keep hearing this and will be making a post later on the whole sorry ordeal, but this is really ticking me off. Forget hearsay, forget what you have heard through Chinese whispers, what do you think I have done that constitutes me not being a mod?

Remove what is a private matter between myself and Kev (hard after all the smokescreens have been put in place, granted) but honestly, show me what I personally have done against blonde. Please, it would be very enlightening.

Jane why did it take so long to air your side of the story, the silence didn't help matters.
A lot of people are concerned with data security, as an administrator (mod) of a network (forum) you are in a privileged position and should be seen as completely honest/trustworthy and someone who hacks into someone else's PC to access someones personal files doesn't come across in that manner.

I've no axe to grind with you, Ive only met yourself and Kev a couple of times in person and really liked you both.
However it just comes across as you being vindictive and trying to get some dirt on your ex to hurt him and then passing it to a well known enemy of his, all this despite it being well known that he is at his lowest ebb, left homeless with very little after your split and very poorly mentally.
This could have been dealt with so much better internally, Kev could have got a ban and been allowed to get himself better again and non of us here on blonde needed to know. But my getting Bainn involved yourself ensured it wasn't going to be kept in house.

LOL, wasn't going to get involved but can't help myself!......I think people are entitled to know that someone with access to accounts has transferred a dead man's money to his own account  

[Murph1984]

Personally I think the fact that this is a supposed community and many members have stated they no longer trust you or want you around here should be enough to have your modship removed.

I dare say that there are plenty of members of this "supposed community" that no longer like,trust or want around the place all the spineless,creepy little priks that watched the video of a fellow member of their community being sexually assaulted but sit back and said nothing either.

Do you advocate all of them hitting the road as well or is it just the matter of modship you have a problem with? They are fine remaining as active members of the "community" as long as they're not moderators?

Everyone on here is welcome to conduct themselves 100% as they wish away from the forum? Would you not agree.

Where as Jane has used the blonde forum as a weapon, which I feel should not be allowed.

P.s. Are you assuming I am close to the group you refer to as 'spineless, creepy little priks' ?

1. Not quite,I would hope any forum would ban members who are convicted of crimes of a certain nature.Ae you saying you would be ok with murderers,paedophiles,etc posting as members because their crimes would have been committed away from the forum?

2. I'm not sure she has has she? On the face of things she has been the least vocal of anybody throughout everything.It is one word against the other as to whether she abused her position on blonde or did any of the things on the pc she is being accused of but the other party seems unwilling to provide any proof of thse accusations,proof which as stated would be readily available.This party has also thrown their own credibilty into serious doubt after the money "mix-up",which again has not been proven to be a mix-up at all by showing the money rested in his Full Tilt account all the time,as well as some slightly convenient haziness in remembering dates after the original story did not add up.

3. No I am not.

1. I agree with your point. However I couldnt put these people in the same category as those people.

2. I'm not interested in the PM bit. It seems we will never know if she looked or not. I am 100% convinced that her motive was to out him on here and seperate him from something that meant the world to him. I realise other people may not see it that way, but for me it is a definate.

3. Just wanted to check. I havent seen it, and defaintely wouldnt want to.  

1. I know,thse were obviously extreme examples but I would still want anybody who was part of the same group as me to act in a certain way,otherwise I wouldn't like being associated with them in any way,shape or for(u)m.

2. Well it has yet to be proven the money mix-up was genuine,and in this case it is different from the norm imo where the length of time passed means innocence needs to be proven rather than innocent until proven guilty,so perhaps he did indeed do something which deserved to be outed.

[ACE2M]

not another 20 pages i've got to read, ffs.

from reading the last few posts i agree that some people who failed to act on something they saw which was clearly horrific deserve more recriminations than they have received. Greeksteins 'didnt know what to do and thought it best forgotten' post in the previous thread was just a joke, should be ashamed.

[nirvana]

I almost dont want to post on this stuff since it looks like such a car crash - so many lies and disingenuous posts from all corners. But apparently being out in the open with everything is the best course so feel I'm kinda invited to meddle in a deeply personal tragi-comedy so I too can take a moral high ground.

I only have a couple of questions from a purely academic perspective since it makes no difference to my life:

Why do the blonde leadership want to keep Jane in her role when she so clearly did not trust them to resolve the issue of Brendan's monaaay - bizarro !! I mean how long did Tighty and Tikay have to act on the issue before going to B***n ? In business it is common for whistleblowers to have to go to trusted 3rd parties, but that's generally because there is no faith in local management to actually deal with the issue in a timely or competent way.

Which veggies were used, by whom and on who ? Lets have this out in the open in case it emerges later to harm innocent parties.

[GreekStein]

Some questions for you Jane as I try to understand the situation. I realise there's a few here so if you could answer beneath each one rather than in a long reply that would be great. Thanks in advance.

1) are you denying that Kev told you about the video?

2) are you certain that you informed Tikay/Tighty of the concerns about the Brendan issue BEFORE talking to bainn?

3) Why have you deleted your posts from Kev's birthday thread 29th Dec?

4)  Are you saying that you only deleted photographs from 1 folder?

5)  are you saying you never looked at his facebook messages or emails?

6) Are you sure you didn't access Kev's blonde account on 30th June 2010?

[George2Loose]

All this to try and get Jane demodded. Pretty com

[ripple11]

All this to try and get Jane demodded. Pretty com

yeh, lol.......... I must have missed the bit where she was either holding the camera, or off down to the shops with the $600.

[nirvana]

All this to try and get Jane demodded. Pretty com

yeh, lol.......... I must have missed the bit where she was either holding the camera, or off down to the shops with the $600.

I'm not in the camp that wants a demodding or beheading - too much delicious schadenfreude at the expense of those feeling that same emotion a few weeks back.

[celtic]

All this to try and get Jane demodded. Pretty com

yeh, lol.......... I must have missed the bit where she was either holding the camera, or off down to the shops with the $600.

LOL Nick, never expected summit so funny from the quietest bloke on blonde. WP.

[ripple11]

All this to try and get Jane demodded. Pretty com

yeh, lol.......... I must have missed the bit where she was either holding the camera, or off down to the shops with the $600.

LOL Nick, never expected summit so funny from the quietest bloke on blonde. WP.

warming up for my LAG image tomorrow

[mondatoo]

Only thing I have to say is

BAINN SHOULD BE BANNED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GINGER SHOULD BE DEMODDED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KEV SHOULD BE PERMA BANNED