George2Loose
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 07:26:42 PM » |
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yeh tough life.
Jam if he has AA surely this is what they call a cooler. Or do you really check call here?
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Rupert
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2010, 07:59:58 PM » |
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Really tough/interesting hand. I think rivers a pretty clear check/call because even though he has very few floats in his range I don't think he's calling a king and he might even fold a flush but I think he can turn Ax into a bluff and I think will def value jam all boats and possibly some flushes too if thinks you will call Kx which is kinda what your hand looks like since he will probably think you jam boats on the river.
I expect our turn betting range is pretty polarized w Ax as clear checks and most kings probably betting and some checking. I guess the bottom of our river range is QJ QT JT usually with a heart and since we so infrequently have those hands i'd say jamming them all is fine. Not sure if you arrive at the river with a ton more bluffs (expect you probs do) but have no idea if having a huge bluff to value ratio is good. Although since you're unknown i'd say the first time you can bluff all your bluffs and c/c all your boats. No idea what i'd do with a flush on the river, probably check/fold and chunder everywhere
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George2Loose
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2010, 09:27:00 PM » |
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Take u never bluff here against this opponent?
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mondatoo
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2010, 09:47:50 PM » |
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I shove in real time obv, but also think check/call is probably better. While I think the possibility of a double float is pretty much negligible, of the worse made hands he has he bets more of them than he calls a shove with I think. Pretty close tho.
I read Rupert's post and thought yeah check call is best line then thought I sure don't just jam the river lol.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2010, 01:34:55 AM » |
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It's DJK, the guy wears a cape all the time, shovel them in.
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The Camel
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2010, 02:08:53 AM » |
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I would definiitely flat preflop.
As played against almost all oppos I would check the river, against this geezer I can see why you'd shove it in but I still prolly check.
Really interesting hand though.
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2010, 02:49:28 AM » |
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AQs/KQs
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Dubai
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2010, 02:53:18 PM » |
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I normally flat pre here but with the fishes stack it would make it really hard to play oop 3 way. If it was headsup with DJK id definitely just flat pre
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2010, 11:52:05 PM » |
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yeh tough life.
Jam if he has AA surely this is what they call a cooler. Or do you really check call here?
It's DJK, the guy wears a cape all the time, shovel them in.
this must be right - surely he hero calls much more than he bluffs.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2010, 12:43:08 AM » |
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It's easy to say he has more hero hands than bluffs, but what hero hands?? I can think of 2/3 max
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Rupert
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2010, 01:16:49 AM » |
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i think he hero folds here more than he hero calls personally
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2010, 10:27:15 AM » |
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It's DJK, the guy wears a cape all the time, shovel them in.
This is such a brilliant phrase.
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2010, 12:18:53 PM » |
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he's the 6max champion of the world, gg
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2010, 06:33:59 PM » |
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It's DJK, the guy wears a cape all the time, shovel them in.
This is such a brilliant phrase. The highest of all compliments, life is complete!
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2010, 01:47:24 AM » |
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Basically i was interested in the expected ratio of double float hands that he shoves if checked to in relation to the number of hands he checks behind that he would call a shove with. If a>b then i should check and if b<a i should shove
i think its a shove because i would expect him to want to showdown more hands than bluff after floating twice on this board. esp as he can raise flop some% of the time if bluffing/semibluffing. [if you want to level yourself: this makes you unable to check call most hands, but i don't think one needs to worry too much about metagame, esp if you haven't played with each other much. of course if he thinks you think like this then he can bluff every river you check even if he thinks he has the best hand cos you can't call]
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