Easy Fold?

[Eso Kral]

To me i cant see what i am beating but what do yo do?
Event is Luton Side event £300 buy in, i have been agreesive i/p and oop only played strong hands only hand to showdown was quads.
Table is fairly tight 2circuit regs and villain was on my 1st table before we broke. I have not played with him before, he hasnt got out of line and is happy to limp call and play flop and turn accordingly and 1hour later he has now moved to my table seated on my right.
Blinds 150/300 25 
I have 19k  villain 23k at start of hand
Villain limps  utg
I have  and raise to 1150 from trap2
Cut off and BB call
Flop     BB checks  utg checks  i bet 2500  C/o + B/B both fold   utg calls
turn     utg checks   i fire 4600 (Thoughts?) utg flats
river 
utg bets 4750   is this an easy fold leaving me just over 10k?

[DMorgan]

I think I sigh fold. Against a guy that has shown no creativity whatsoever and plays very passively pre I wouldn't expect him to show up with anything that you beat.

[pleno1]

we're getting like 5-1 right? i probably call.

[Eso Kral]

we're getting like 5-1 right? i probably call.

ok pleno these were my thoughts but if we call and lose we have 5000 and blinds are going up in 2mins to 200/400/50 so were left with 12 bigs or we can fold and have 25 b/bs and can grind back from here obv not taking account of antes etc as all the other chipstacks on table defo call our shove with 12 bigs except one other shortie whoo has twice our stack.
whats best?

[NoflopsHomer]

Check back turn.

[hettonmobster]

Pretty much always checking back the turn for pot control in this spot. Cant really see what you beat here on the river except ace king so probably fold here.

[Eso Kral]

Check back turn.

in hindsight i knew i should have but with k q 10 on board and 2 hearts didnt want to give a free card. If you check the turn do you call the 3.5-4.5 value bet on the river from him if no heart or paint comes?

[geordieneil]

tough one. utg limped, but called your raise. i dont put him on KK OR QQ here, surely he would of repopped pre flop so u can rule those 2 out. KQ a strong possibility or set of 7's....i wouldn't be fearing AJ, he surely wouldn't call 2500 with a gutty.
   the 10 on the turn brings only on more hand to fear KT(would of he entered the pot UTG with KT, i doubt it). personally i call his river bet. the way the hand worked i think u were floated with 10,J.. and he knows he's missed so only way he can win the pot is to bet out...........other than a set of 7's or kq nothing else would make that much sense.
   but what do i know lol

what was the outcome?
  

[NoflopsHomer]

Check back turn.

in hindsight i knew i should have but with k q 10 on board and 2 hearts didnt want to give a free card. If you check the turn do you call the 3.5-4.5 value bet on the river from him if no heart or paint comes?

Two hearts? Seriously?

[kinboshi]

Check back turn.

in hindsight i knew i should have but with k q 10 on board and 2 hearts didnt want to give a free card. If you check the turn do you call the 3.5-4.5 value bet on the river from him if no heart or paint comes?

Yeah, I look to check the turn too here to keep the pot small.  Means his river bet is smaller and the crying call costs us a far smaller proportion of our stack. 

[Eso Kral]

tough one. utg limped, but called your raise. i dont put him on KK OR QQ here, surely he would of repopped pre flop so u can rule those 2 out. KQ a strong possibility or set of 7's....i wouldn't be fearing AJ, he surely wouldn't call 2500 with a gutty.
   the 10 on the turn brings only on more hand to fear KT(would of he entered the pot UTG with KT, i doubt it). personally i call his river bet. the way the hand worked i think u were floated with 10,J.. and he knows he's missed so only way he can win the pot is to bet out...........other than a set of 7's or kq nothing else would make that much sense.
   but what do i know lol

what was the outcome?
  

I dwelled and observed villain who didnt look comfortable (good read me) and called to be shown 77 for a flopped set which away from KQ was all i was worried about and immediately regretted betting turn as should have checked and crying called the river but then had 10k left that way.

[pleno1]

what were you doing on river if he checked?

[Eso Kral]

what were you doing on river if he checked?

i check back and i knew once i had bet the turn i had left myself a difficult river spot and checking the turn would have been best option and re-evaluate the river.
thx for input

[Nico29]

Pre- Nice standard isolation sized raise, cut off prob has reasonable holding here, bb is prob just assuming utg will call atc and cld actually have atc, utg as we now know is dying to set mine.

Like the bet size on the flop, build  up the pot and force j10 to show their hand rather than draw cheaply and don't allow backdoors to draw cheap. Only hand im really worried about here is a donk played kq.

This turn im not mass liking as it brings two holdings a straight and also quite a few two pair combos, thus am almost always checking behind for pot control here and as a bluff catcher.

Don't worry so much about rr hearts, i'd be more concerned by a 9 or even an ace on the river, but remember we have blockers to this.

River bet looks big but isn't in terms of the bloated pot due to yr turn bet and his call.

Im paying him off here if only to berate myself for my turn bet/line.

For a start this river is a complete brick so yr only folding if you'd have folded to a min c/r on the turn, thus why did you bet the turn?

For value thinking you had the best hand and to protect v draws? Or to find out information-which is ridic as u have position and a great hand for showdown.

So just ck back turn and snap off a value bet on river and gg well played mr limpo donko set of 77s imo.

Pot control ftw!

[Nico29]

Fml at being the only nutter to think we were ahead here. Maybe this is why I never cash in anything.

Gotta say I'm a bit surprised at the consensus to pot-control the turn, I would definitely say bet-bet-bet is the best line here and would only change your sizing in the hand as reported, the big bets don't give your opponent a chance to keep flicking it in with worse. And once he donks that river I still call getting 4:1 or whatever it is.

I don't mind betting the turn but only for value against random kings that he shldnt have, weird draws that need to pay and against stubbornly played 8's and 9's.

Im gen not sure if he holds these enough to make betting the turn profitable enough, having said that i'm certainly not betting the turn and then never betting a clicked to river, so i don't hate yr line keys.

If the villain checks the river i'd say we must bet the river for value alot of the time as most live donks aren't tricky enough. Obv we have to call the river donk lead getting such a price, but i'd def be inclined to fold to a jam a lot of the time versus certain villains.

Agree if we bet less on the flop we give him alluded fe, but that also is another method of controling the pot size which i don't really wnana massively bloat here with the overpair.