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Well said Matt
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December 22, 2005, 07:49:50 PM »
What about...
Lawrence Gosney, winner of a WSOP bracelet.
Willie Tann, winner of a WSOP bracelet.
Iwan Jones, winning the London Masters was the highlight of a good year.
.........Jimmy Alp, whatever happened to him in the second half of the year? Had a great start, making 7 finals by April and won a few on the way, then pretty much stopped competing in ranking events.
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Quote from: AlrightJack on December 22, 2005, 07:49:50 PM
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.........Jimmy Alp, whatever happened to him in the second half of the year? Had a great start, making 7 finals by April and won a few on the way, then pretty much stopped competing in ranking events.
competing in £20 rebuys at Luton last week.....
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December 23, 2005, 03:13:17 AM »
Yes, terrific Post by Matt.
I really do like the mention of Siilo's success - THATS the essence of the game, it's all relative. And Silo's success was HUGE to him.
I echo most of the other nominees, particularly Barry Neville's extraordinary run of Final Victories, & the steady form of The Boy Thewy, & young JP.
A great thread, I hope it runs & runs.
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December 23, 2005, 01:20:55 PM »
Player of the year - Rob Hollink
Young Player of the year - Patrick Antonius
I personally think that the European ranking need a bit of a rethink! I would only make the top two events at every festival ranking events. At the moment IMHO the winner is always going to be someone who play all the smaller events in the UK. This is a bit unfair on the top players who live outside the UK like Hollink, Luske, Noah, Helppi, Antonius e.t.c who are never going to be found playing a £200 freezeout on a Mon night in Blackpool or Luton.
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Quote from: Milkybarkid on December 23, 2005, 01:20:55 PM
Player of the year - Rob Hollink
Young Player of the year - Patrick Antonius
I personally think that the European ranking need a bit of a rethink! I would only make the top two events at every festival ranking events. At the moment IMHO the winner is always going to be someone who play all the smaller events in the UK. This is a bit unfair on the top players who live outside the UK like Hollink, Luske, Noah, Helppi, Antonius e.t.c who are never going to be found playing a £200 freezeout on a Mon night in Blackpool or Luton.
Pascal Perrault did, and the last but one festival saw Swedes and Norwegians in large numbers at Luton...Mr Misterggen, Mr red suit etc
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December 23, 2005, 01:31:11 PM »
The likes of Luske , Hollink etc will always be drawn to the big $$ of the USA tour. This years European top 10 deserve all the credit, as these guys have supported the European tour through out the year and helped places like Walsall, Luton & Blackpool get established on the poker map.
Not everyone can afford to play $10k main events week in, week out so including the smaller entry tournaments into the ranking system gives a lot more chances for more people to get some ranking points.
Think P Jackson must get a mention as player of the year for his results on-line as well as live.
Also P Maxfield for his 2nd at Bellagio WPT Championship, Lawrence Gosney WSOP win & Mickey Wernick European Rankings
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December 23, 2005, 01:46:24 PM »
I actually hadn't had a close look at the points criteria for the European ranking till a minute ago.
here it is:
http://www.pokerineurope.com/europeanrankings/pointssystem.php
I have changed my mind. The smaller buy in events should keep there ranking status. All i think it needs is a bit of tweaking.
It needs another level or two in the buy in category. e.g 10000 euro EPT Monte Carlo/5000 euro Masterclassics should not be equal to a £750 tournament at the Vic!
Also the number of runners. As the entry factor is currently
Number of Entries/ Entry Factor
1 - 49 / 1
50 - 99 / 2
100 - 149 / 3
150 and above / 4
It should continue like this...
150 - 199 / 5
200 - 249 /6
e.t.c.
The system was devised when there weren't big buy in tournaments with hundreds of runners... and just needs updating slightly!
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December 23, 2005, 03:14:27 PM »
thanks for the nomination ,but personally jp is one of the best players iv played against such a good player ,aggresiveand hard to read .
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merry christmas ,have a very prosperouse new year everyone
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December 23, 2005, 04:11:09 PM »
Well said Matt, glad you took the time to post that. We appreciate it.
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December 23, 2005, 05:59:31 PM »
as vinni sez, tx for the nomination.
not to detract from the great mr tann but i expect all the consistent top tourney players like willie to eventually manouerve themselves into a position where they can snatch a bracelet; gosney definately wasn't considered one of these and as such i think his bracelet warrants top spot (sorry rookie, you just ain't british enough).
milky raised some valid points & i agree the rankings do need a serious make over - i applaud any non brit who makes the top ten as the majority of events are blighty based.
perhaps they should only allow five results from any one country to re-address the balance, and have a seperate UK ranking as well
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December 23, 2005, 11:11:54 PM »
I would just like to add that ranking tourneys should at the very least have house dealers.
let's eastablish some criteria here.
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December 24, 2005, 01:13:23 AM »
I believe i read somewhere the rankings are bing changed as Ben thinks the should, with higher field brackets and higher buyin brackets. Lets remember it was rarer to get a €4000 even with 300 runners till this year!
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Quote from: Karabiner on December 23, 2005, 11:11:54 PM
I would just like to add that ranking tourneys should at the very least have house dealers.
let's eastablish some criteria here.
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