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[pleno1]

Play live cash at weekends.

Pleno you won £50+ per hour playing live  (a phenominal win rate...absolutely phenominal)

Yet you did this in 40 different casinos with limited or no player info!!!! fantastic

AND

you did this before you were a good player!!!!

(and you must have beaten some of the highest rakes in world too!!)

Live cash - thats the answer!!

Ok, this could get boring

So what kind of hourly win rate are you getting in Live games?.....you keep records?


Lee

I'm not sure, most of it was from 2 years ago when I was a way worse player than I am now. But you can see from Alex's blog the win rates that are achievable/standard with good players.

My hourly that I kept records of was for 6 months where I was winning at a completely ridiculous win rate. £50+ at 100nl/200nl playing very regularly.

Now I simply don't have the time.

Like I said "completely ridiculous"

I haven't played at anywhere near the amount of hands required to prove a sample in the live arena. Thats why me suggesting an hourly would be ridiculous. Like I said, the one time I did it was very high because of stupid run good. Lildave said he won a £9,400 pot at 200nl one night in Notts. If he continued playing twice a week, that wouldn't mean his hourly was £200.

The simple fact is way over 50% of live poker players are truly awful. When they meet anybody with good fundamentals and play for a long period of time they would lose chunks.

As for your point about "playing in 40 different casinos against different people" it doesn't matter who they actually are, they are usually old, relatively miserable, sometimes overly cheerful men who are terrible at poker and have the same general traits

- they cant value bet
- they cant bluff
- they cant bluffcatch
- they cant hero-fold

I don't need to play with somebody for 10 hours (300 hands? :D:D) to be able to adjust against them, I see myself as a very good player who can adjust to different player types and I am very good at identifying them. I completely understand if it takes you 6 months of playing with somebody before you start to adjust to them though, I mean this in a nice way.

Happy New Year x

[pleno1]

To answer your question,

Play live cash at weekends.

Pleno you won £50+ per hour playing live  (a phenominal win rate...absolutely phenominal)

I think my true online hourly, espeically on the weekend, is considerably higher than playing in live games, so when you take into account fact I'd be away from family, playing with usually smelly people in a usual cold/hot room its not exactly the most desirable thing.

[pleno1]

you did this before you were a good player!!!!

I didn't say I wasn't a good player, just not the BITB.

[pleno1]

Ah, 2012 Pleno1 already here, shame!

#thoushallnotpost

#THEYdontknow

#WEwillwin

#glsir

[smashedagain]

To answer your question,

Play live cash at weekends.

Pleno you won £50+ per hour playing live  (a phenominal win rate...absolutely phenominal)

I think my true online hourly, espeically on the weekend, is considerably higher than playing in live games, so when you take into account fact I'd be away from family, playing with usually smelly people in a usual cold/hot room its not exactly the most desirable thing.

post that picture off facebook of you at diner with your work mates. They look fun

[Marky147]

I wouldn't worry too much about poker whilst real life is hotting up and you're getting busier.

Real life >> Poker

If you're 'demoralised' after a 2012 which has seen you

-Travelling around with friends playing live HSMTT and living it up

-Beat the game at both cash and MTT

-Progress at work and take on much more responsibility

Get yourself to the shrink


Take a step back and look objectively, it's obviously been a great year and it seems everything is lined up to move the same way in 2013.

As for poker I wouldn't even worry about it, you'll find your way as you go and as everyone tells you

Life/happiness ev >>>>> hourly

[pleno1]

To answer your question,

Play live cash at weekends.

Pleno you won £50+ per hour playing live  (a phenominal win rate...absolutely phenominal)

I think my true online hourly, espeically on the weekend, is considerably higher than playing in live games, so when you take into account fact I'd be away from family, playing with usually smelly people in a usual cold/hot room its not exactly the most desirable thing.

post that picture off facebook of you at diner with your work mates. They look fun

haha, some true true hero's in this pic:

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It was taken at our Christmas party..

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Average age on this table is 20, some really funny stories between all though.

Lets say I'm in seat 1 and go clockwise

Seat 2: William, 20, Oxford University Graduate, works as an "intrapreneur" in the marketing department unsuccessfully appealed to management we should buy a 100m company yacht

Seat 3: Kamen, 27, Takes care of our Bulgarian, Romanian, Chinese, Japanese, Hungarian and some other poker schools. Confirmed hero with lots of stories from the eastern european countries

Seat 4: His gf

Seat 5: Melvin, 21, another hero, if you go to every restaurant in Gib they know him by first name terms and he is confirmed to know every waitress on better terms

obv he had first dance of the night..



Seat 6: Callum "JustinSayne" lots of degen stories on Blonde about Callum.

Seat 7: Jan, German housemate of William (seat 2) they nearly kill eachother every day. He grinded NL2 and played like 200k hands in a week then decided to lose all his roll in one hand on NL25.

Seat 8: The infamous, imfromsweden, probably closely guy to me in Gib

Evening started with Dominik (ceo) with speech

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Usually you would imagine the guys who are being put in responsibility to run big projects would be older, more experienced guys. This is Sebastian, he started as somebodies assistant last year, after around 6 months they gave him the daunting, yet exciting task to be the guy to drive the Tradimo train and he became the "Projekt Leader" basically the guy running Tradimo. The company motto I guess is if you're good enough, you're old enough. It also shows the rest of us that if you stick in you can develop/progress etc.

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[cambridgealex]

" He grinded NL2 and played like 200k hands in a week then decided to lose all his roll in one hand on NL25. "

hilarious in many ways

[paulhouk03]

Have u coached football before?surely that' will be very life satisfying

[smashedagain]

Yeah that's the one. Was your g/f not invited. Thought she was also an employee

[pleno1]

Yeah that's the one. Was your g/f not invited. Thought she was also an employee

There was about 20 tables, she was ill at home though

Was a good night but I'm not a big drinker. I went home at 12ish and left the young lot to degen it up around town.

[jakally]

I really, really feel confident playing, but just need to change my mindset a little bit.

Anyone has any advice?

Hey Pads.
I think  it's very, very difficult to be excellent at two things at the same time.
You can do it for a short period, but it's so tough mentally, trying to maintain that level on two fronts.

I think, in reality, you have to put max effort into one, and accept the fact that the other one plays second fiddle.

[pleno1]

Hey,

Thanks for the post Neil.

So you'd suggest cracking on at work an then being more of a rec with poker? Playing socially and more for fun than setting targets or trying to achieve x, y or z?

Agree it is probably the best option. These guys always end up being the ones who bink anyway ;
I can then give some money back to the poker economy in the form of some live events and feel ok afterwards and put it down to an expensive hobby

[jakally]

Hey,

Thanks for the post Neil.

So you'd suggest cracking on at work an then being more of a rec with poker? Playing socially and more for fun than setting targets or trying to achieve x, y or z?

Agree it is probably the best option. These guys always end up being the ones who bink anyway ;
I can then give some money back to the poker economy in the form of some live events and feel ok afterwards and put it down to an expensive hobby

I can't really tell you what's best for you, only you know that.

What I can tell you, is that, as a person, you set yourself very high standards (best in the business obv!), and you aren't happy unless you are very, very successful in your field of choice.
In each of your fields, you are competing against people who, for the most part, put 100% of their energies into being successful at that one thing.
Even if you have a greater talent / capacity than them (which you probably have), you can't divide that by 2, over a long period, and reach your objectives in both.

You will end up burnt out pretty quickly, and your standards will slip in one, or both, areas.
If you had a mundane job, where you weren't being stretched, it would be very possible to maintain the pokers alongside.

[SuuPRlim]

Pads, mate do what makes you happy, please don't waste your time worrying about which between poker and your job should take up the most of your time as you'll end up under-achieving in both, for a much as my opinion means you defo have what it takes to be massively successful in either one you pick, you got nothing to prove mate.

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