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pleno1
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2400 on:
May 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM »
Quote from: Free_Rollin on May 05, 2013, 01:52:25 PM
Hey pads,
Just wanted to say good luck with this new chapter in your life mate. I hope you get a lot out of the experience, and things go your way.
I'm finishing my exams this month, so hopefully we get the chance to catch up soon (whether it be in UK, Vegas, or somewhere else!)
Hey man,
Thanks a lot, it means a lot to have support! How you feeling about exams? Know you've really been grinded hard with studying etc, whats your plans now? Def be great to catch up, hopefully its before Vegas as that will be next year and great to see you before!
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2401 on:
May 05, 2013, 06:58:41 PM »
lol..
PokerStars Hand #98148713036: Tournament #724013179, €183+€17 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (125/250) - 2013/05/05 19:41:45 CET [2013/05/05 13:41:45 ET]
Table '724013179 26' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 (21572 in chips)
Seat 2: Luvaj0 (22532 in chips)
Seat 3: KILL PANDAS (7795 in chips)
Seat 4: LeOfficer (26795 in chips)
Seat 5: qwertya09 (15455 in chips)
Seat 6: pleno1 (25657 in chips)
WEST INDIZ74: posts the ante 30
Luvaj0: posts the ante 30
KILL PANDAS: posts the ante 30
LeOfficer: posts the ante 30
qwertya09: posts the ante 30
pleno1: posts the ante 30
KILL PANDAS: posts small blind 125
LeOfficer: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [
]
qwertya09: folds
pleno1: raises 250 to 500
WEST INDIZ74: raises 750 to 1250
Luvaj0: raises 1065 to 2315
KILL PANDAS: folds
LeOfficer: folds
pleno1: raises 2185 to 4500
WEST INDIZ74: folds
Luvaj0: calls 2185
*** FLOP *** [
]
pleno1: bets 2777
Luvaj0: calls 2777
*** TURN *** [
] [
]
pleno1: checks
Luvaj0: bets 5122
pleno1: calls 5122
*** RIVER *** [
] [
]
pleno1: checks
Luvaj0: bets 10103 and is all-in
pleno1: calls 10103
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Luvaj0: shows [
] (high card Queen)
pleno1: shows [
] (a pair of Jacks)
Luvaj0 is sitting out
pleno1 collected 46809 from pot
Luvaj0 finished the tournament in 153rd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 46809 | Rake 0
Board [
]
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Luvaj0 (button) showed [
] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 3: KILL PANDAS (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: LeOfficer (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: qwertya09 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pleno1 showed [
] and won (46809) with a pair of Jacks
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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May 05, 2013, 07:02:18 PM »
.fr sunday 6max the comp i tell everybody is softest on a sunday and told repeatedly its the toughest? weird.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2403 on:
May 05, 2013, 07:07:30 PM »
or just get supposed "v good reg" to do things like this:
PokerStars Hand #98149250479: Tournament #724013179, €183+€17 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (150/300) - 2013/05/05 19:51:51 CET [2013/05/05 13:51:51 ET]
Table '724013179 26' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 (21282 in chips)
Seat 2: mst2A (14288 in chips)
Seat 3: KILL PANDAS (11910 in chips)
Seat 4: LeOfficer (36525 in chips)
Seat 5: qwertya09 (4710 in chips)
Seat 6: pleno1 (47309 in chips)
WEST INDIZ74: posts the ante 40
mst2A: posts the ante 40
KILL PANDAS: posts the ante 40
LeOfficer: posts the ante 40
qwertya09: posts the ante 40
pleno1: posts the ante 40
mst2A: posts small blind 150
KILL PANDAS: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [td
]
LeOfficer: folds
qwertya09: raises 300 to 600
pleno1: raises 800 to 1400
WEST INDIZ74: folds
mst2A: folds
KILL PANDAS: folds
qwertya09: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [
]
qwertya09: bets 3270 and is all-in
pleno1: calls 3270
*** TURN *** [
] [
]
*** RIVER *** [
] [
]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
qwertya09: shows [
] (a pair of Fives)
pleno1: shows [td
] (a pair of Tens)
pleno1 collected 10030 from pot
qwertya09 finished the tournament in 140th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10030 | Rake 0
Board [
]
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mst2A (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: KILL PANDAS (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: LeOfficer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: qwertya09 showed [
] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: pleno1 showed [td
] and won (10030) with a pair of Tens
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2404 on:
May 05, 2013, 08:03:33 PM »
represent a lot buddy
PokerStars Hand #98152275562: Tournament #724013179, €183+€17 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (350/700) - 2013/05/05 20:47:07 CET [2013/05/05 14:47:07 ET]
Table '724013179 26' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 (33397 in chips)
Seat 2: mst2A (17375 in chips)
Seat 3: Agonija1 (9950 in chips)
Seat 4: LeOfficer (35832 in chips)
Seat 6: pleno1 (67240 in chips)
WEST INDIZ74: posts the ante 85
mst2A: posts the ante 85
Agonija1: posts the ante 85
LeOfficer: posts the ante 85
pleno1: posts the ante 85
mst2A: posts small blind 350
Agonija1: posts big blind 700
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pleno1 [
]
LeOfficer: folds
pleno1: raises 700 to 1400
WEST INDIZ74: raises 1750 to 3150
mst2A: folds
Agonija1: folds
pleno1: calls 1750
*** FLOP *** [
]
pleno1: checks
WEST INDIZ74: bets 7075
pleno1: calls 7075
*** TURN *** [
] [
]
pleno1: checks
WEST INDIZ74: checks
*** RIVER *** [
] [
]
pleno1: checks
WEST INDIZ74: bets 23087 and is all-in
pleno1: calls 23087
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WEST INDIZ74: shows [
] (a pair of Sevens)
pleno1: shows [
] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
pleno1 collected 68099 from pot
WEST INDIZ74 finished the tournament in 66th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 68099 | Rake 0
Board [
]
Seat 1: WEST INDIZ74 (button) showed [
] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: mst2A (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Agonija1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: LeOfficer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pleno1 showed [
] and won (68099) with two pair, Tens and Sevens
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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May 06, 2013, 12:03:06 AM »
chip leader ftops main, only 1000 left
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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May 06, 2013, 12:18:26 AM »
THE worst thunder/lightening outside, pretty sure its gg internet
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2407 on:
May 06, 2013, 12:32:24 AM »
Full Tilt Poker Game #32604269938: MiniFTOPS Main Event (248379785), Table 490 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 01:15:35 CET - 2013/05/06 [19:15:35 ET - 2013/05/05]
Seat 1: Menda Lerenda (42,431)
Seat 2: bastet2004 (165,952)
Seat 3: ChampagneTony (112,124)
Seat 4: EirePlayer (109,232)
Seat 5: Batza10 (276,384)
Seat 6: ikimpela (62,193)
Seat 7: AlphaQ09 (200,049)
Seat 8: pads1161 (460,466)
Seat 9: elitaz (89,120)
Menda Lerenda antes 500
bastet2004 antes 500
ChampagneTony antes 500
EirePlayer antes 500
Batza10 antes 500
ikimpela antes 500
AlphaQ09 antes 500
pads1161 antes 500
elitaz antes 500
elitaz posts the small blind of 2,000
Menda Lerenda posts the big blind of 4,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [
]
bastet2004 has 15 seconds left to act
bastet2004 raises to 8,888
ChampagneTony has 15 seconds left to act
ChampagneTony folds
EirePlayer folds
Batza10 folds
ikimpela folds
AlphaQ09 folds
pads1161 calls 8,888
elitaz folds
Menda Lerenda folds
*** FLOP *** [
] (Total Pot: 28,276, 2 Players)
bastet2004 bets 12,000
pads1161 calls 12,000
*** TURN *** [
] [
] (Total Pot: 52,276, 2 Players)
bastet2004 bets 32,000
pads1161 calls 32,000
*** RIVER *** [
] [
] (Total Pot: 116,276, 2 Players)
bastet2004 has 15 seconds left to act
bastet2004 checks
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 bets 112,563
bastet2004 has 15 seconds left to act
bastet2004 has requested TIME
bastet2004 folds
Uncalled bet of 112,563 returned to pads1161
pads1161 mucks
pads1161 wins the pot (116,276)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 116,276 | Rake 0
Board: [
]
Seat 1: Menda Lerenda (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: bastet2004 folded on the River
Seat 3: ChampagneTony folded before the Flop
Seat 4: EirePlayer folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Batza10 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ikimpela folded before the Flop
Seat 7: AlphaQ09 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: pads1161 (button) collected (116,276), mucked
Seat 9: elitaz (small blind) folded before the Flop
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2408 on:
May 06, 2013, 01:58:59 AM »
gg
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: The Best In The Business
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Reply #2409 on:
May 06, 2013, 02:26:44 AM »
they CANNOT take anymore!!!
Full Tilt Poker Game #32604673212: MiniFTOPS Main Event (248379785), Table 490 - 8000/16000 Ante 2000 - No Limit Hold'em - 03:10:23 CET - 2013/05/06 [21:10:23 ET - 2013/05/05]
Seat 1: seedman40 (539,367)
Seat 2: Oli Sangalli (281,436)
Seat 3: 3Oree (530,580)
Seat 4: CU at 69USD SnG (1,480,562)
Seat 5: Sinner030 (293,681)
Seat 6: dr0p_th3_ball (535,678)
Seat 7: poker4f (57,487)
Seat 8: pads1161 (503,004)
Seat 9: elitaz (578,716)
seedman40 antes 2,000
Oli Sangalli antes 2,000
3Oree antes 2,000
CU at 69USD SnG antes 2,000
Sinner030 antes 2,000
dr0p_th3_ball antes 2,000
poker4f antes 2,000
pads1161 antes 2,000
elitaz antes 2,000
elitaz posts the small blind of 8,000
seedman40 posts the big blind of 16,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [As
]
Oli Sangalli folds
3Oree folds
CU at 69USD SnG folds
Sinner030 folds
dr0p_th3_ball folds
poker4f folds
pads1161 raises to 32,000
Sinner030: oh i have a job... but its not fair too =D
elitaz has 15 seconds left to act
elitaz raises to 67,655
seedman40 folds
pads1161 raises to 103,310
truepokerplaya (Observer): wat?
elitaz has 15 seconds left to act
elitaz raises to 198,965
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 has requested TIME
pads1161 calls 95,655
*** FLOP *** [
] (Total Pot: 431,930, 2 Players)
Sgt_Skoda (Observer): Drop_th3_Ball
elitaz bets 377,751, and is all in
pads1161 calls 302,039, and is all in
elitaz shows [
]
pads1161 shows [As
]
Uncalled bet of 75,712 returned to elitaz
*** TURN *** [
] [Ah] (Total Pot: 1,036,008, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** RIVER *** [
Ah] [
] (Total Pot: 1,036,008, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
elitaz shows Ace Queen high
pads1161 shows three of a kind, Aces
pads1161 wins the pot (1,036,008) with three of a kind, Aces
truepokerplaya (Observer): lolol
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,036,008 | Rake 0
Board: [
Ah
]
Seat 1: seedman40 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Oli Sangalli folded before the Flop
Seat 3: 3Oree folded before the Flop
Seat 4: CU at 69USD SnG folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Sinner030 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: dr0p_th3_ball folded before the Flop
Seat 7: poker4f folded before the Flop
Seat 8: pads1161 (button) showed [As
] and won (1,036,008) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: elitaz (small blind) showed [
] and lost with Ace Queen high
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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May 06, 2013, 02:39:46 AM »
6 on the turn would have been more fun... nh
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Re: The Best In The Business
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May 06, 2013, 04:02:49 AM »
GWAN SON!!!! I really need $7k btw
hahahaha
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May 06, 2013, 08:21:39 AM »
multi tabling or just dishing out slowrolls?
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Quote from: pleno1 on May 05, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
Hey man,
Thanks a lot, it means a lot to have support! How you feeling about exams? Know you've really been grinded hard with studying etc, whats your plans now? Def be great to catch up, hopefully its before Vegas as that will be next year and great to see you before!
Not feeling super confident about exams at the moment, these next 2 weeks are going to be crucial! If i can grind it out hard, then it should be fine. Plans are, I've secured a position with a prop trading firm. It's a pretty sick role, and I'm really excited about it. Also playing live cash in London at the moment, which is good. Yeah, it'll be great to catch up, let me know if you're ever down these ends mate.
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May 08, 2013, 11:46:59 PM »
*posted this on my other blog, but will c+p every day into here instead of spamming
*
Most of you will know that I moved from Gibraltar to Hungary last week with my girlfriend and our dogs. I have done blogs before, which start pretty cool for the first 2 weeks but then I get busy/something comes up and the blog dies off a little bit because of my inactivity.
I have had bad internet/not access to internet meaning I have been not able to do coaching/videos etc, but I have been able to sort my schedule out for the next couple of weeks where I DO have internet.
What is SCOOP??
SCOOP, or Spring Championship of Online Poker is a series of tournaments played on PokerStars between 12-26 of May.
The Challenge
I have bet the following people that I will out perform them in SCOOP.
Toby "108ofclubs" Lewis
Credentials:
Former no2 in the world. Currently ranked 9th in England
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=125243&sort=place&dir=asc
- > EPT Vilamoura Champion
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/810ofclubs/
-> $3m in cashes, 3rd in yesterdays Super Tuesday
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
Chris "Nigdawg" Brammer
Credentials:
Former world number 1! Currently ranked number 4 in the UK
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=102688&sort=prize&dir=desc
-> 5th in WSOPE Main Event, 5th in 25k 6max WSOP
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/nigdawg/
-> Close to $3m online winnings, won the 100r, Super Tuesday, Big 162, Big 109, Party/PokerStars.fr high rollers
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
Richard "theclaimer" Trigg
Click to see full-size image.
Credentials:
Currently 10th in the UK.
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/theclaimeer/
-> Over $3.2m in tourny winnings. 92 first place finishes!!!! Including... Brawl, Super Tuesday, Bigger 162 and most other tournaments you can imagine!
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=89061
-> Recently 2nd in toughest UK field "The Monte Carlo" for over $100,000
Bet:
1) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP, excluding the BIGGEST score
Sebastian "bassysafari" Saffari
Credentials:
Ranked number 2 in the UK! Over 2m online winnings.
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/seba29072/
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=91871
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
Andrew "Stato1" Hulme
Click to see full-size image.
Credentials:
Former countdown champion! Currently ranked number 5 in the UK and more importantly, number 1 in Nottingham!
Over $1m in cashes:
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/stato_1/
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
Leguito
Credentials:
Over $1m online winnings, EPT/VENETIAN winner
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/leguito/
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=113091&sort=prize&dir=desc
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
Charlie "ChazManChaz" Combes
Ranked in the top 10 in the country and top 50 in the world, Charlie loves the big stage and grind a tonne of the big festivals. Another sicko with over 3,000,000 in tournament winnings.
He recently came 2nd in the biggest ever Super Tuesday and is selling a huge package to this SCOOP with the intention of lot of grinding and lots of binking, in his own words:
Quote
In the last 2 SCOOP series' I have final tabled 4 HIGH events, winning the 1575$ ante up for 55K$, splitting the 1k turbo 3 way for 83k$, 4th in 1k mixed PLO/NL for 35k$, 7th in 1k rebuy for 41k. I also final table bubbled the 1k rebuy turbo for 13k$ with numerous other 10-30 places.
I like to think these amazing structures really suit my style and I really put my head down and always find my a-game during these big series. I'm on top form this year playing the best poker off my life, I recently came 2nd in the record breaking super tuesday for 93k$ and am currently ranked 32nd this year on pokerstars and 31st on full tilt.
Credentials
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/chaz_man_chaz/
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=156398
The Bet
1) Most cashes, combined
2) Accumulative cashes
Jon "lufcbas" spinks
Millions and millions of online cashes this guy loves the big occasion. He plas a tonne normally but over scoop/wcoop etc he really goes for it. Last year he played the 50k horse and if I could bet 1 guy in the uk to be close to the top f the scoop leaderboard it would be him. But I can't so I'm going to bet against him him, LDO.
He recently won the John Eames invitational a couple of months ago in Deauville for 200,000 and last month continued his good form, this time on the virtual felt winning full tilts version of the Sunday Million, the 350,000.
The bet
1) most separate cashes
2) accumulative cashes
Luckyno75
Credentials:
Mid Stakes BEAST! $1.5M online winnings from Mid Stakes Tournaments, true grinder!
http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/luckierno7/
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than them in SCOOP
DonBartos
Credentials:
Currently number 1 on PokerStars TLB, "nuff said"
Bet:
1) I cash in more tournaments than him
2) I cash for more money than him in SCOOP
- - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -
Who, what, how much?
I am betting different, undisclosed amounts vs each of the players above. Vs different players I'm betting on different tournaments, these are clearly outlined below. If theres a black box, it means that its not agreed in the bet vs the player.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtHptstXtxEOdE1DMkRNTmRrWjBqcDZCRDZLTU9abWc#gid=0
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Community Forums
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