Sick spot early in $1kwcoop

[titaniumbean]

plz forget JJ and overpairs here plz

You've also discounted JQ and I assume we can forget Q3/Q8

So you folded because you put him squarely on QQ.

If you got it right mate that's amazing.

it's how often is he right in this spot not was he right this time tho.


Gotta assume without rick saying that utg is a fistard that he's not flatting Q3/Q8 even the sooted ones. So he really is as narrow on the turn c/r as QQ if he isn't c/r Qx. IF he is c/r Qx then he still has tonnes of combos we beat.

This spot isn't coming round too often though is it. I never claim to be an awesome player and I'm not going to be sat there doing the maths and working out if I've got the right pot odds based on oppo having it 34.17% of the time or whatever.

I just think I'm winning cus I've got a full house that is a pretty good one and if I'm wrong I've still got some chips left.

Rick. What do you do if he checks river to you? I asume you bet for value? This means that up to the river you think you're winning despite his actions.

I merely meant we could fold and the guy has QQ BUT he's also shoving KQ/AQ or whatever and therefore our fold is terribad.

[DMorgan]

Really hate the fold here. I think this is exactly the way that he plays every Qx that he calls with pre and one of those Qx hands got there. Even if his range is only QJ, QK, AQ this is still a super snapcall

[action man]

lol at this, just pinged moorman up


Rick says:
 u know thechemist83?
Chris says:
 yeh why
 1 of the crazier regs
Rick says:
 gulp


maybe i just had a brain fart i rly thought he has Q8s/QQ more than AQ here.
players i rate all saying bad fold prob means it was, moorman asking him later what he had fwiw.

[EvilPie]

lol at this, just pinged moorman up


Rick says:
 u know thechemist83?
Chris says:
 yeh why
 1 of the crazier regs
Rick says:
 gulp


maybe i just had a brain fart i rly thought he has Q8s/QQ more than AQ here.
players i rate all saying bad fold prob means it was, moorman asking him later what he had fwiw.

Lol at the "gulp". Sweet.

Really interested to know what he had.

Good next level shit.

[action man]

willing to take friendly bets that i was beat in the hand, beers next time i see you all

if ur in type "beer"

[MC]

willing to take friendly bets that i was beat in the hand, beers next time i see you all

if ur in type "beer"

Too easy to doctor a hand history for free beer imo

[titaniumbean]

you've folded a FH in a 1k comp, you should be sure enough to deffo be making side bets lol.

If he expects us to fold a queen to this line then I think we have to paii the man. but i'm a station and predominantly a cash donky (though I excel in donking in all formats imo)

[outragous76]

Ok, in a follow up to trigs hand I have a question. I had ajkhoosier1 on my table for a few hours last night. He played super solid, and had 41k when ave was 25k.

So he basically gets into a hand @ 300 600 60 where he gets it all in pre button vs bb against tables biggest stack ak vs 99. 

This is obv 'standard' for a high stakes reg playing a 215 

However, why then do we get pha posts where these same people want to fold full houses on the river? My point being, if you are prepared to take huge flips because "it'll even out in the end" why ever question hands that would just be coolers?

[titaniumbean]

Ok, in a follow up to trigs hand I have a question. I had ajkhoosier1 on my table for a few hours last night. He played super solid, and had 41k when ave was 25k.

So he basically gets into a hand @ 300 600 60 where he gets it all in pre button vs bb against tables biggest stack ak vs 99.

This is obv 'standard' for a high stakes reg playing a 215

However, why then do we get pha posts where these same people want to fold full houses on the river? My point being, if you are prepared to take huge flips because "it'll even out in the end" why ever question hands that would just be coolers?

why just say 'I got coolered' if on analyzing the situation you can construct a range against which the decision is very clear?


There are not that many 'coolers' in poker, the worse you are the more you get 'coolered'

(btw I get coooolered all the time fwiw)


edit and obv the ak/99 hand will go pfr with v vwide range, 3 bet v wide range, 4 bet a possibly pretty wide range, hence shove pre with fold equity and pot equity.

[action man]

Ok, in a follow up to trigs hand I have a question. I had ajkhoosier1 on my table for a few hours last night. He played super solid, and had 41k when ave was 25k.

So he basically gets into a hand @ 300 600 60 where he gets it all in pre button vs bb against tables biggest stack ak vs 99. 

This is obv 'standard' for a high stakes reg playing a 215 

However, why then do we get pha posts where these same people want to fold full houses on the river? My point being, if you are prepared to take huge flips because "it'll even out in the end" why ever question hands that would just be coolers?

they arent flipping tho, they both think their hands are infront of the others ranges of hands, if its a flip its a flip.
in the 216 myself and the sb both have 140k at 1250/2500 he opens to 7k I 3b to 19k he 4bs to 60k i jam he calls 88 and beats my AK

did i think i was flipping? no i thought there was a good chance he shows up with AK/AQ/AJ

[DMorgan]

willing to take friendly bets that i was beat in the hand, beers next time i see you all

if ur in type "car"

car

[action man]

willing to take friendly bets that i was beat in the hand, beers next time i see you all

if ur in type "car"

car

if i could afford to be betting cars i wouldnt be betting beers

[outragous76]

Trigg, I'm not having a go, it's a genuine question.

I disagree with your comment on coolers, but that's prob cause I'm bad.

My point is you are happy to take on huge flips no problem. You barely consider them. But yet this hand requires case cards for you to be beat, and yet you agonise over it. I'm not saying it doesn't require thought or is worthy of posting, I just find it interesting that you fold these spots when u flip for fun

[Royal Flush]

Trigg, I'm not having a go, it's a genuine question.

I disagree with your comment on coolers, but that's prob cause I'm bad.

My point is you are happy to take on huge flips no problem. You barely consider them. But yet this hand requires case cards for you to be beat, and yet you agonise over it. I'm not saying it doesn't require thought or is worthy of posting, I just find it interesting that you fold these spots when u flip for fun

When you get it in as a flip you have near 50% equity, when you call it off on the river behind you have 0% equity, they are very different beasts

[outragous76]

Yeah I suppose but he has 100% equity against the other holdings