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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2010, 12:21:26 PM »

Scared money don't make money!!!
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2010, 03:11:24 PM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 05:06:55 PM »

I folded- utg snapped with K6 lol. Shover had 88. King on river......

I spose I was trying to be a bit of a hero maybe but board was so dry that I thought 88 was the only hand I beat when he jammed and I was crushed by the rest of his range.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 05:10:46 PM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.

Nice read JP sure have just over 20 bigs.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2010, 08:44:13 PM »

The peel pre isn't a snapcall but I don't think its a mistake at all. Snap getting this in though.
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2010, 09:20:47 PM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.

He has 50bbs and is nearly 40bb effective with everyone in the hand. Peel pre is fine imo. Thread is also worth having I think, although I agree we're up against 98 87 mostly and may get ridic price from donko trailing in with TT+, so I do a call.

my bad misread mycraft for 12k instead of 120k :S
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 10:00:16 PM »

dont mind the call pre... but if u r gonna peel with this hand exactly wot flop do you want to see...? snap call for me post im afraid
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 12:20:51 AM »

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  36,630  games     0.001 secs    36,630,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    53.593%     51.04%    02.55%             18696          935.00   { 7c6c }
Hand 1:    46.407%     43.85%    02.55%             16064          935.00   { QQ-66, 98s, 86s+, 76s }


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I'd say this stove is pretty far off, here's what I have:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  26,730  games     0.001 secs    26,730,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    37.123%     34.06%    03.06%              9105          818.00   { 7c6c }
Hand 1:    62.877%     59.82%    03.06%             15989          818.00   { 99-66, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s }

allofit is pretty nitty in my experience and i'm fairly certain he 3 bet/calls off JJ+ vs the fish opener at least, most of time TT too and 99 he probs mixes it up

so 37% equity just vs him, you need 40% for a call when its just vs him, then with the fish maybe getting it in to that makes things even moreeeeee complicated I can't be bothered to do exact calcs but it's something like 30% I imagine you need (although there's a 18k side pot)

even trying to be incredibly optimistic and overdoing his range just to show how bad it is, you get this:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

 126,720  games     0.001 secs   126,720,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    53.155%     51.46%    01.70%             65210         2148.00   { 7c6c }
Hand 1:    46.845%     45.15%    01.70%             57214         2148.00   { 66+, A9s-A8s, K9s-K8s, K6s, Q9s-Q8s, J9s-J8s, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, T8o+, 97o+, 87o }

and 3 way:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    31.036%     29.55%    01.48%            910031        45632.50   { 7c6c }
Hand 1:    40.413%     36.49%    03.93%           1123508       120886.00   { TT-66, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s }
Hand 2:    28.552%     25.30%    03.25%            779184        99988.50   { 66+, A9s-A8s, K9s-K8s, K6s, Q9s-Q8s, J9s-J8s, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, T8o+, 97o+, 87o }

so 31% at absolute best 3 way, factoring in its the WCOOP main event and there's an absolute ton of soft spots and a sick structure, i'd say it's a pretty easy fold
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2010, 01:08:20 AM »

i'd say hes a fave to flat jj over 3 betting maybe even qq
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2010, 01:09:38 AM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.

He has 50bbs and is nearly 40bb effective with everyone in the hand. Peel pre is fine imo. Thread is also worth having I think, although I agree we're up against 98 87 mostly and may get ridic price from donko trailing in with TT+, so I do a call.
James may agree with me ! But Big Charra defintely calls here as even nits know when they are ahead ! James hope u get a seat for ept tonite! slight personal rubdown for my drinkng buddy!
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2010, 01:18:29 AM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.

He has 50bbs and is nearly 40bb effective with everyone in the hand. Peel pre is fine imo. Thread is also worth having I think, although I agree we're up against 98 87 mostly and may get ridic price from donko trailing in with TT+, so I do a call.
James may agree with me ! But Big Charra defintely calls here as even nits know when they are ahead ! James hope u get a seat for ept tonite! slight personal rubdown for my drinkng buddy!

Sigh. I thought I was your drinking buddy.

/life
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2010, 06:18:32 AM »

lol at peeling 67s with just over 20bb stacks, flopping 2 pair and debating whether to get it in.

Pre peel is tez.

He has 50bbs and is nearly 40bb effective with everyone in the hand. Peel pre is fine imo. Thread is also worth having I think, although I agree we're up against 98 87 mostly and may get ridic price from donko trailing in with TT+, so I do a call.
James may agree with me ! But Big Charra defintely calls here as even nits know when they are ahead ! James hope u get a seat for ept tonite! slight personal rubdown for my drinkng buddy!

Sigh. I thought I was your drinking buddy.

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nahh dumped u when u decided not to reply to my beg for backing! oh well ull get over it! x
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