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Karabiner
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I have been spanking bots for years now.
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Quote from: Karabiner on October 17, 2010, 05:20:24 PM
I have been spanking bots for years now.
Any huge rings involved?
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Quote from: Karabiner on October 17, 2010, 05:20:24 PM
I have been spanking bots for years now.
If they ban bots, it is rumoured they will use a monkey..... what would you do then?
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Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 10:53:06 PM
Personally, there is very little difference between using a bot that you have configured and playing yourself, apart from the obvious lack of human failings, i.e. (Tilt, fatigue and alcohol). Essentially the bot plays the game that you play because you programmed it that way. It makes the same decisions that you would make but isn't prone to the stubborn flop call when deep down you know you are behind.
I already use a bot on Betfair for greyhound betting and that has taken me over 6 months to tweak into a winning formula. The best thing is it allows me time to do other stuff while it goes to work for me. It isn't making millions - that is impossible, but it increases my bank by 3% per day. Now I'll have a crack with a poker bot. Might take longer to configure but we'll see. With a 40% RB deal it shouldn't be too hard.
Long live the bots I say. They are here to stay in the long term.
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October 17, 2010, 11:10:29 PM »
12 posts and 9 deleted impressive stuff.
Given the bs you are coming out with, hardly surprising. Hope you lose the lot.
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Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: thetank on October 17, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 10:53:06 PM
Personally, there is very little difference between using a bot that you have configured and playing yourself, apart from the obvious lack of human failings, i.e. (Tilt, fatigue and alcohol). Essentially the bot plays the game that you play because you programmed it that way. It makes the same decisions that you would make but isn't prone to the stubborn flop call when deep down you know you are behind.
I already use a bot on Betfair for greyhound betting and that has taken me over 6 months to tweak into a winning formula. The best thing is it allows me time to do other stuff while it goes to work for me. It isn't making millions - that is impossible, but it increases my bank by 3% per day. Now I'll have a crack with a poker bot. Might take longer to configure but we'll see. With a 40% RB deal it shouldn't be too hard.
Long live the bots I say. They are here to stay in the long term.
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Well, I don't pretend to understand that but I re-iterate that bots are part of life. If it was a true artificial intelligence then that wouldn't be right but as it is only as good as you, the programmer, then it is just an extension of the human behind it. And if you are a losing player, then so will your bot be. Simples.
When I can buy one that will clean the house I'll have that as well.
You don't have to program one yourself you can buy one off someone else,can you seriously not see why that is bad,ie cheating ??
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Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 11:06:31 PM
Quote from: thetank on October 17, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 10:53:06 PM
Personally, there is very little difference between using a bot that you have configured and playing yourself, apart from the obvious lack of human failings, i.e. (Tilt, fatigue and alcohol). Essentially the bot plays the game that you play because you programmed it that way. It makes the same decisions that you would make but isn't prone to the stubborn flop call when deep down you know you are behind.
I already use a bot on Betfair for greyhound betting and that has taken me over 6 months to tweak into a winning formula. The best thing is it allows me time to do other stuff while it goes to work for me. It isn't making millions - that is impossible, but it increases my bank by 3% per day. Now I'll have a crack with a poker bot. Might take longer to configure but we'll see. With a 40% RB deal it shouldn't be too hard.
Long live the bots I say. They are here to stay in the long term.
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Well, I don't pretend to understand that but I re-iterate that bots are part of life. If it was a true artificial intelligence then that wouldn't be right but as it is only as good as you, the programmer, then it is just an extension of the human behind it. And if you are a losing player, then so will your bot be. Simples.
When I can buy one that will clean the house I'll have that as well.
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meh ok then, let's go
Quote from: 0800 on October 17, 2010, 10:55:29 PM
Personally, there is very little difference between using a bot that you have configured and playing yourself, apart from the obvious lack of human failings, i.e. (Tilt, fatigue and alcohol). Essentially the bot plays the game that you play because you programmed it that way.
It also has an ability in mental arithmetic greater than any human being who has ever lived in the history of the world.
Apart from that, and the other superhuman abilities that you mentioned, it should play pretty much the same game as the programmer.
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October 17, 2010, 11:51:10 PM »
Except that it doesn't
It does other stuff much worse and overall it stands a little worse in terms of its profitability at a given table.
If tinkering with the programming to make it as good as you can make it is your thing, there's no problem with that. However, the minute you put that bot into a online poker room where doing so is prohibited, you become a dirty cheat. Plz don't do that, it's naughty.
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I like robots
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October 18, 2010, 12:01:07 AM »
Quote from: thetank on October 17, 2010, 11:48:54 PM
It also has an ability in mental arithmetic greater than any human being who has ever lived in the history of the world.
hmmmm my hud does things that I couldn't do in the time available to me. Pokerstove does things that would take me hours.
The thing that makes a botter a cheat imo is that their software makes a decision (no matter how trivial).
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October 18, 2010, 12:06:12 AM »
If you then have your bot play on as many different tables as your total rig will allow, alternating your time on the project between tweaking the bot and taking whatever measures you can think of to lower the probability of getting caught, you move from being a dirty cheat to a dirty dirty dirty cheat.
I don't like dirty cheats, hence the flames.
I like dirty dirty dirty cheats even less.
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Quote from: doubleup on October 18, 2010, 12:01:07 AM
Quote from: thetank on October 17, 2010, 11:48:54 PM
It also has an ability in mental arithmetic greater than any human being who has ever lived in the history of the world.
hmmmm my hud does things that I couldn't do in the time available to me. Pokerstove does things that would take me hours.
The thing that makes a botter a cheat imo is that their software makes a decision (no matter how trivial).
The HUD is quite the bookkeeper it is true.
If I tried to say that a HUD wasn't doing anything that the person who programmed the HUD couldn't do in the game then that would be nonsense.
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Quote from: doubleup on October 18, 2010, 12:01:07 AM
Pokerstove does things that would take me hours.
You use pokerstove in game?
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So where do you draw the "Artificial intelligence" line?
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