Is he next level genius?

[GreekStein]

meh I want to say I disagree with alot of the above, but he's James Mfkin Keys so I'm staying quiet.

I agree too.

Think we should be betting more on flop.

I 144% call river.

[pleno1]

Stack sizes would really help for all streets though.

[skolsuper]

meh I want to say I disagree with alot of the above, but he's James Mfkin Keys so I'm staying quiet.

my thoughts exactly. james, why does betting the turn "leave us open to get shoved on". ideal semi bluff spot no, firing a strong 2nd bullet into 2 players with decent equity if we're called? I dont think this villain is vbetting a 4 (or similar) ever here. He may be bluffing yes, but its just such a shit bluff -  25 in 168 that i levelled myself into thinking that it couldnt be a bluff.

Well you've left effective stack size out of the OP but I'm assuming you can't call a shove after you bet, if you can then why are you not shoving yourself? I don't think the sliver of fold equity you get from your 'semi-bluff' is enough to justify the wastage if you end up bet-folding when you have min 20% equity. Having "decent equity when called" isn't in and of itself a reason to bet, your equity probably won't be over the required 33% to make it a good value bet when 2 people call, and you need 50% vs just one caller to make it a good value bet, so imo it's not a good bluff and not a good value bet.

[skolsuper]

meh I want to say I disagree with alot of the above, but he's James Mfkin Keys so I'm staying quiet.

I agree too.

Think we should be betting more on flop.

I 144% call river.

I would only advocate betting more on the flop as long as we don't fold out any hands that would call a smaller bet. I guess flush draws are never folding whatever, but it's nice to keep in worse A-highs and random low gutshots imo, so long as we don't fold to 1/8th pot river bluffs...

[outragous76]

Tbf getting 7:1 on the river I'm probs calling with 6 high!

[pleno1]

Stack Sizes, can we shove? I dont think he has a nut hand here.

[gatso]

meh I want to say I disagree with alot of the above, but he's James Mfkin Keys so I'm staying quiet.

me too

I actually hate the way we've played every street

the only play I like in the whole hand is the 25 river bet which is sheer genius

[AlexMartin]

this hand confuses me. check the turn.

[pleno1]

Thoughts on betting £35 to induce on river?

[SuuPRlim]

I think pre-flop is fine. I knwo people will be like OH11x WTF, but its low stakes live cash where the conventional/advanced poker theorys have to be put to one side and every hand should be played more or less in a vacuum, unless you have enough good players at the table to warrant otherwise (in all the hours Iv played in games like this in my life Id say that has happened about once)

Again I kinda like the flop bet, Q43 with hearts is not a flop which your going to get many folds on, and its basically a check but boosts the pot nicely, I think peoples calling ranges here are fairly inelastic so betting £30 would still get the same callers but would bloat the flop, after all we have equity but no showdown value so we want to pot control slightly.

Turn I would have almost definatley checked, nothing really has changed so I still dont see anyone folding, and the chances are that at leats one of the others have a better hand atm + again no actual showdown value as of yet, and again everyone is terrible normally so when we bink a heart no-one will even consider folding a queen.

River I am stunned you even considered folding a ten here, if you credit the guy with any inteligance then he surely knows either your hand is a draw or a made hand on the flop (maybe 77 or A5s idk) so if he wants value he'll bet more (either you're calling or you not) and if he's betting ONLY to make you fold hearts he'll bet smaller - if he doesnt expect you to fold a pair. If we say he has no intelligance at all then he has bet £25 itno £150+ and people make really stranmge bets and calls all the time so I just flick it in.

Shoving i dont like because a we rep pretty much TT or QT which vs someone intelligant is far too thin, vs some not intelligant then they are likely to sigh, tank forever, come up with a pretty decent desicion via some horrible thought processes and flick the call in with Q8 - and then we have no idea if we have a better hand than the all-in or not.  

In these games simple for the win imo, if you try to out-think people who are barely thinking then you level yourself far too often, as you did here. and in answer to the thread title, NO, NO HE ISN'T
 

[pleno1]

its not 11x thought, there was a straddle.

[SuuPRlim]

its not 11x thought, there was a straddle.

arrh good point
we've not done reading at school yet

[pleno1]

its not 11x thought, there was a straddle.

arrh good point
we've not done reading at school yet

it comes inbetween floating and the stop and go, its pretty pointless reall in the poker way of life. Infact its only real reason is to read your fantastic blog.

[GreekStein]

Thoughts on betting £35 to induce on river?

Dunno stack sizes but hate it.

[cambridgealex]

I think pre-flop is fine. I knwo people will be like OH11x WTF, but its low stakes live cash where the conventional/advanced poker theorys have to be put to one side and every hand should be played more or less in a vacuum, unless you have enough good players at the table to warrant otherwise (in all the hours Iv played in games like this in my life Id say that has happened about once)

Again I kinda like the flop bet, Q43 with hearts is not a flop which your going to get many folds on, and its basically a check but boosts the pot nicely, I think peoples calling ranges here are fairly inelastic so betting £30 would still get the same callers but would bloat the flop, after all we have equity but no showdown value so we want to pot control slightly.

Turn I would have almost definatley checked, nothing really has changed so I still dont see anyone folding, and the chances are that at leats one of the others have a better hand atm + again no actual showdown value as of yet, and again everyone is terrible normally so when we bink a heart no-one will even consider folding a queen.

River I am stunned you even considered folding a ten here, if you credit the guy with any inteligance then he surely knows either your hand is a draw or a made hand on the flop (maybe 77 or A5s idk) so if he wants value he'll bet more (either you're calling or you not) and if he's betting ONLY to make you fold hearts he'll bet smaller - if he doesnt expect you to fold a pair. If we say he has no intelligance at all then he has bet £25 itno £150+ and people make really stranmge bets and calls all the time so I just flick it in.

Shoving i dont like because a we rep pretty much TT or QT which vs someone intelligant is far too thin, vs some not intelligant then they are likely to sigh, tank forever, come up with a pretty decent desicion via some horrible thought processes and flick the call in with Q8 - and then we have no idea if we have a better hand than the all-in or not.  

In these games simple for the win imo, if you try to out-think people who are barely thinking then you level yourself far too often, as you did here. and in answer to the thread title, NO, NO HE ISN'T
 

good post dave. shoving the river or betting 35 to induce i don't like either. He would never fold top pair cos he has the highest pair on the board so it's pointless. Btw sorry didnt mention before, villain is playing about 250-300. We cover. Butchered this one clearly. Shouldve checked the turn and called the river.