PLO. 5-bet pot. Flop spot.

[Laxie]

$114 out of our $274 is in the middle, if we're 5 betting pre surely we're committing ourselves to the pot whatever comes?

Does this then mean we should be sizing differently in the hand and even flatting the 4-bet with position?

Also, this is like the nut worst flop for us

I don't see anything wrong with committing as much as possible pre. So I guess checking back the flop and folding any turn is probs okay seeing as it's the worst flop possible. I should have paid attention to your disclaimer

Are you ok with re-jamming the whole lot in pre and if so why?  Genuine question.

[GreekStein]

$114 out of our $274 is in the middle, if we're 5 betting pre surely we're committing ourselves to the pot whatever comes?

Does this then mean we should be sizing differently in the hand and even flatting the 4-bet with position?

Also, this is like the nut worst flop for us

I don't see anything wrong with committing as much as possible pre. So I guess checking back the flop and folding any turn is probs okay seeing as it's the worst flop possible. I should have paid attention to your disclaimer

Are you ok with re-jamming the whole lot in pre and if so why?  Genuine question.

We are favourite over any non-AA hand.

Why would we not get it in pre when we're going to show a profit (and a healthy one) doing it.

[DMorgan]

Check/fold and its not close imo

Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop

[NoflopsHomer]

The fact it's K-Q-T is way worse than the fact it's all spades. I c/f here.

[GreekStein]

Check/fold and its not close imo

Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop

6789 / 3456 etc

JJ88 (random 2 pair hands)

Other AAxx

[GreekStein]

Check/fold and its not close imo

Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop

6789 / 3456 etc

JJ88 (random 2 pair hands)

Other AAxx

I'm playing devils advocate too btw.

[GreekStein]

The fact it's K-Q-T is way worse than the fact it's all spades.

lol obv

[Skgv]

You lot still talking about this hand! Godsake its a fold an thats the end of it. Why ? cause his range will have hit that flop most of the time an you have 1 pair wt no chance of improvement an with 40% of stack in you can make the fold an use the remainder of your now decimated stack reduced to 60% for a better chance to recover losses due to unlucky flop. x

[Skgv]

Oh is this thread really A wind up or you just tilting so badly from your classy display at dtd an that you no longer feel confident in your game m8 ? 

[doubleup]

Check/fold and its not close imo

I c/f here.

hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop

just saying


As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?

[Skgv]

Check/fold and its not close imo

I c/f here.

probaly every flop bar that one or one fearturng jqk! sickest baddest flop for greekys hand

hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop

just saying


As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?

[GreekStein]

Oh is this thread really A wind up or you just tilting so badly from your classy display at dtd an that you no longer feel confident in your game m8 ? 

[  ] Feel good about my game at the moment.

[  ] As bad as you are.

[ x ] xxxxxx

[ACE2M]

Check/fold and its not close imo

I c/f here.

hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop

just saying


As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?

I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position? for balance maybe, but i'd want a stronger AA to do it .

as for your other question, tons of different flops you cbet but anything contaning all broadway given the PF is ugly as sin - Pretty much anything else gets the lot most of the time from me.

[GreekStein]

Check/fold and its not close imo

I c/f here.

hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop

just saying


As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?

I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position? for balance maybe, but i'd want a stronger AA to do it .

as for your other question, tons of different flops you cbet but anything contaning all broadway given the PF is ugly as sin - Pretty much anything else gets the lot most of the time from me.

balancing wasn't a consideration here, was playing 0.50/1 rush where the majority of the player pool wont know my game.

[doubleup]

I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position?

Its a 5 bet anyway but


obv balance - my view on plo atm is that the ability to make a pot sized bet on the river in position is the most ev+ thing possible, so my overall strategy is to be able to do that and avoid being the one thats oop facing the bet.