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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2010, 12:08:00 PM » |
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$114 out of our $274 is in the middle, if we're 5 betting pre surely we're committing ourselves to the pot whatever comes?
Does this then mean we should be sizing differently in the hand and even flatting the 4-bet with position? Also, this is like the nut worst flop for us I don't see anything wrong with committing as much as possible pre. So I guess checking back the flop and folding any turn is probs okay seeing as it's the worst flop possible. I should have paid attention to your disclaimer Are you ok with re-jamming the whole lot in pre and if so why? Genuine question.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2010, 12:09:35 PM » |
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$114 out of our $274 is in the middle, if we're 5 betting pre surely we're committing ourselves to the pot whatever comes?
Does this then mean we should be sizing differently in the hand and even flatting the 4-bet with position? Also, this is like the nut worst flop for us I don't see anything wrong with committing as much as possible pre. So I guess checking back the flop and folding any turn is probs okay seeing as it's the worst flop possible. I should have paid attention to your disclaimer Are you ok with re-jamming the whole lot in pre and if so why? Genuine question. We are favourite over any non-AA hand. Why would we not get it in pre when we're going to show a profit (and a healthy one) doing it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2010, 12:56:51 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2010, 01:04:51 PM » |
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The fact it's K-Q-T is way worse than the fact it's all spades. I c/f here.
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2010, 01:09:25 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop
6789 / 3456 etc JJ88 (random 2 pair hands) Other AAxx
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2010, 01:11:20 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
Name a hand that he calls a 5bet pre that isn't crushing us on this flop
6789 / 3456 etc JJ88 (random 2 pair hands) Other AAxx I'm playing devils advocate too btw.
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2010, 01:17:19 PM » |
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The fact it's K-Q-T is way worse than the fact it's all spades.
lol obv
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2010, 01:19:12 PM » |
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You lot still talking about this hand! Godsake its a fold an thats the end of it. Why ? cause his range will have hit that flop most of the time an you have 1 pair wt no chance of improvement an with 40% of stack in you can make the fold an use the remainder of your now decimated stack reduced to 60% for a better chance to recover losses due to unlucky flop. x
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2010, 01:21:15 PM » |
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Oh is this thread really A wind up or you just tilting so badly from your classy display at dtd an that you no longer feel confident in your game m8 ?
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2010, 01:30:16 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
I c/f here.
hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop just saying As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 01:37:19 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
I c/f here.
probaly every flop bar that one or one fearturng jqk! sickest baddest flop for greekys hand hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop just saying As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks?
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2010, 01:58:15 PM » |
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Oh is this thread really A wind up or you just tilting so badly from your classy display at dtd an that you no longer feel confident in your game m8 ?
[ ] Feel good about my game at the moment. [ ] As bad as you are. [ x ] xxxxxx
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2010, 02:02:57 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
I c/f here.
hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop just saying As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks? I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position? for balance maybe, but i'd want a stronger AA to do it . as for your other question, tons of different flops you cbet but anything contaning all broadway given the PF is ugly as sin - Pretty much anything else gets the lot most of the time from me.
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2010, 02:03:59 PM » |
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Check/fold and its not close imo
I c/f here.
hes in positon so you cant check fold on the flop just saying As I said earlier I dont bloat pots preflop in position, so for me this situation is academic, but I have a question for those who give up - what flop textures do you c bet and what flops do u call if villain donks? I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position? for balance maybe, but i'd want a stronger AA to do it . as for your other question, tons of different flops you cbet but anything contaning all broadway given the PF is ugly as sin - Pretty much anything else gets the lot most of the time from me. balancing wasn't a consideration here, was playing 0.50/1 rush where the majority of the player pool wont know my game.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2010, 02:21:32 PM » |
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I don't get why you wouldn't 4 bet here PF here in position?
Its a 5 bet anyway but obv balance - my view on plo atm is that the ability to make a pot sized bet on the river in position is the most ev+ thing possible, so my overall strategy is to be able to do that and avoid being the one thats oop facing the bet.
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