How do i play Ace King suited

[Longy]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

You give ppl far too much credit, obv against observant players I balance against your average field you can pretty much get away with murder.

Opening aks and getting flatted is a total nightmare with these stacks, whereas aa and kk play well on virtually every flop.

[MANTIS01]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

You give ppl far too much credit, obv against observant players I balance against your average field you can pretty much get away with murder.

Opening aks and getting flatted is a total nightmare with these stacks, whereas aa and kk play well on virtually every flop.

Fair enough. Upon reflection my range balancing argument in this specific live spot was prob quite a dumb one.

[SuuPRlim]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

lol NH

[titaniumbean]

What?


live hand and using words


'range'

'balance'



i'll add

'LOL'

[gatso]

even if live players were observant longy doesn't really need to be balancing ranges. he's played like 8 live hands in his life

[Longy]

even if live players were observant longy doesn't really need to be balancing ranges. he's played like 8 live hands in his life

I will take the under.

[AlexMartin]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

You give ppl far too much credit, obv against observant players I balance against your average field you can pretty much get away with murder.

Opening aks and getting flatted is a total nightmare with these stacks, whereas aa and kk play well on virtually every flop.

Fair enough. Upon reflection my range balancing argument in this specific live spot was prob quite a dumb one.

we were all convinced it was a terrible level

[SuuPRlim]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

You give ppl far too much credit, obv against observant players I balance against your average field you can pretty much get away with murder.

Opening aks and getting flatted is a total nightmare with these stacks, whereas aa and kk play well on virtually every flop.

Fair enough. Upon reflection my range balancing argument in this specific live spot was prob quite a dumb one.

we were all convinced it was a terrible level

it was defo a dig at me fwiw lol

[MANTIS01]

actually as a touni noob i'd be quite interested to know what the bottom of our shoving range should be in this spot with 12bbs.

Also, how many bbs would it take to make AKss an open rather than a shove? Would this change for AA?

My range is something like 33+,A8s+,A10+, KJs+ (might change a bit given the payouts and opponents). Oh and yeah against live donks I deffo make it 15k with kk+.

Adjustments when in EP are a lot more payout structure than opponent dependent in this spot.

Longy, why do you deffo make it 15k with KK against live donks? If you do that you will then have to open other stuff as well and then people are going to start peeling cos they love that live. Balancing your range is an important consideration with a 12bb stack. I'm surprised you don't know this.

You give ppl far too much credit, obv against observant players I balance against your average field you can pretty much get away with murder.

Opening aks and getting flatted is a total nightmare with these stacks, whereas aa and kk play well on virtually every flop.

Fair enough. Upon reflection my range balancing argument in this specific live spot was prob quite a dumb one.

we were all convinced it was a terrible level

it was defo a dig at me fwiw lol

Nah buddy, wouldn't have a dig. Just interested in whether your advice was any good.

I'm afraid to tell you people thought your advice was a terrible level and that you're giving people way too much credit in the live pokers. Sorry about that.

[titaniumbean]

Mantis