Prose from a Poshboy

[SuuPRlim]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

[Skippy]

While we're on Beginners PLO lessons, do you always raise pre like most people advise in Holdem, or do you sometimes open limp? Why?

[tikay]

Irish is a terrible poker game.

The worst part of Omaha is that everyone is (should be) scared of whatever the nuts is on the flop. The best part is that it is possible to have a massive draw against the flopped nuts. This leads to lots of action.

The worst part of hold'em is that no-one ever has a really massive draw (excepting open-ended straight flush draws, but these are still mere pipple compared to big draws in omaha). The best part is that no-one ever has anything so there is a ton of bluffing/thin value betting possible. This leads to lots of action.

Irish removes the best part of each game and leaves the worst part. e.g Everyone should be scared of whatever the nuts is on the flop since all players start with lots of cards; yet no-one can ever have a big wrap plus flush draw against the nuts since they have to throw most of it away before the turn.

It should really be an actionless game because of this. The fact that it sometimes isn't is more to do with the novelty aspect amongst players who don't play it much.

As regards the PLO hand... folding the nuts is NOT a good idea here. There are times in PLO when it is correct to fold the current nuts, but this is not close to being one of them. Also, raise the flop, don't trap... this is not no limit hold'em!

Superb Post.

[tikay]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

And another superb Post itt.

You should start a Blog, young man.

[gouty]

i think this is a fold pre for me nearly every time unless playing against someone i play with a lot and can narrow their range somewhat with their flop/turn play.

if i play it and see that flop i would want to play it pretty quick and try build a pot for a safe turn which has to be a pot bet to make villain make a mistake by calling or picking it up right there.

when i look back on a session the biggest pots of every night are flopped top sets and at local UK casino standard of PLO you are as well smashing the heck out it on flop/safe turns as we get looked up so often, and weak players feel pot committed when they are in fact not.

lil daves plo strat is just the nuts and enjoy reading his opinions but remember the games he plays are mega deep and are like my game at 5am when we have been going for 12 hours and every ones in for loads.

keep on grinding. great read again.

i just cant wait to sit in a game of yours and get slated on here. weeeeeeeeeee.

[cambridgealex]

Excellent TR from tonights game coming...brilliant stuff... 

[GreekStein]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

We're OOP Dave. When we raise flop we have a PSB to jam safe turns? Stato is going to check behind a lot of turns when the pot is this small OTF and he's drawing.

[SuuPRlim]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

We're OOP Dave. When we raise flop we have a PSB to jam safe turns? Stato is going to check behind a lot of turns when the pot is this small OTF and he's drawing.

yh very true. my point that he folds nearly everything he semi-bluff jams the turn with that we have really good equity vs on the flop still stands relevant imo - basically cos as you well realize the convo we are having right now is a pretty perfect argument for folding pre cos here we are floppin gin OOP vs a good player and we're still in a bit of a coffin.

and TY Tikay + I agree 100% with HoneyBarnett that Irish is shit.

[GreekStein]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

We're OOP Dave. When we raise flop we have a PSB to jam safe turns? Stato is going to check behind a lot of turns when the pot is this small OTF and he's drawing.

yh very true. my point that he folds nearly everything he semi-bluff jams the turn with that we have really good equity vs on the flop still stands relevant imo - basically cos as you well realize the convo we are having right now is a pretty perfect argument for folding pre cos here we are floppin gin OOP vs a good player and we're still in a bit of a coffin.

and TY Tikay + I agree 100% with HoneyBarnett that Irish is shit.

ya online always folding this tank of turd

[pleno1]

Excellent TR from tonights game coming...brilliant stuff... 

[tikay]

preflop is fine, fold marginally better vs someone good in a HU pot but you can call whatever barely matters

i also think c/calling the flop is fine cos when you c/r this flop you're NEVER bluffing and the NFD is the stone bottom of your range and on a board of this texture you're pretty likely to have a striaght draw as well, so you basically get it in vs a big draw or a set which will mostly be top set. in essence his range to semi-bluff pot the turn is a good deal wider than his range to bet/call the flop and nearly all the lower part of his turn semi-bluff range will fold the flop. that being said raising the flop is also fine, at the depth you're at I actually marginally prefer chk call and chk/POT safe turns - it looks like you didnt pot here, or am i wrong? Always pot. Its tilting when we have the nuts on the turn and its chks back but vs aggro players that happens less than you'd thin on a brick turn.

As played river is a stnd check fold imo. there are tons of reasons you could have to chk call, but you havent given any + I doubt stato is gonna bluff cos your obv bluff catching when you chk this river card and he cant be too sure you'll fold too often. Jamming is the worst option as he basically never calls worse, and he calls the turn so has a good draw nearly always and obv he never folds top set, because he never has it here.

We're OOP Dave. When we raise flop we have a PSB to jam safe turns? Stato is going to check behind a lot of turns when the pot is this small OTF and he's drawing.

yh very true. my point that he folds nearly everything he semi-bluff jams the turn with that we have really good equity vs on the flop still stands relevant imo - basically cos as you well realize the convo we are having right now is a pretty perfect argument for folding pre cos here we are floppin gin OOP vs a good player and we're still in a bit of a coffin.

and TY Tikay + I agree 100% with HoneyBarnett that Irish is shit.

"Irish" is something of a mystery to me. I have played Live DC for a good few years now, & tend to sit out when Irish is selected, which one or 2 players seem to do repeatedly. The fascination of the game completely whooshes me, as Honeybadger explained rather well.

The oddity is that the biggest Cash Pot I have won this year was at "Irish", at DTD, in a hand that took fuilly 25 minutes to play. And in which I "only" won the side pot. Hard to believe that my K-K on a flip of K-5-3 (no suits) could generate so much action 5 way.

[cambridgealex]

So yesterday was a day off. Well, I rarely have 100% poker free days whilst I'm in Nottingham, there just isn't much to do post midnight when you can't sleep until 5. It was close to being a day off. Certainly it was a stress free poker day.

I try and do at least one useful thing per day before I go to "work". So my list of 6 errands that I made a couple of weeks ago should've been completed by now right? However, I'm ashamed to say I do fit into the stereotype poker player in terms of laziness. I get up at 2pm, laze in bed checking blonde/facebook for an hour, arise and pay my housemates a visit, usually Andy's still asleep and Tom is awake and we have to quietly let the cat into his room to wake him up. He likes that.

Anyway, who knows where time goes but before I know it it's 4.30pm and I realise that nothing is going to get done again. Shops are closing, it's getting cold/dark. I'm not going outside. Yesterday was different however, I completed EVERY item on my to do list. And what a surprise, it was much easier than I thought it would be, and each thing took <5 minutes each. New Years resolution: Stop being such a procrastinator.

Hannah and I were due to spend the evening together, before which I fitted in a quick online session on Bwin, booked a nice win took get me in good spirits for the evening ahead. I have 147 points in the DTD cash game scheme, you need 150 to get two deepstack seats and tonight is the last night of the month so since she fell asleep by midnight and I borrowed her bike and set off to DTD, to play 3/4 hours, get me over the 150 mark, play a nice and relaxed 50/1 game and maybe make a few £ in the meantime.

[cambridgealex]

I arrive and, as expected, it's fairly dead - 3 50/1 tables, no 1/2. I wasn't disappointed really, in all honestly, my DTD account had £280 in and I had about £300 cash on me and my card has <500 on it due to some cashflow cock ups on my part (that mainly being me not forcasting doing my absolute nuts in the last 2 weeks!). So I didn't really want to play 1/2 anyway.

I join a really fun looking game, knowing almost everyone at the table. I sit with £200 and seem to win almost every pot I'm in, most of them very small, but I'm grinding a few pounds at a time, and I'm up to £400 in an hour or so when the following hand takes place. A hand that easily ranks in my top 5 favourite hands played of all time. In fact, I'm struggling to think of any better.

Utg raises to £6
I'm utg+1 with   and call playing £400
utg+2 (£125) calls
mp (£225)calls
cutoff (£310) calls
button (covers everyone) makes it £34
sb cold calls (£250)
utg folds
I call
utg+2 calls
mp calls
cutoff shoves for £310
button folds
sb calls allin for £250

back on me...

[giveyourcash]

[smashedagain]

Is this a Belton moment