Diary Of A Fenland Punterer

[Laxie]

Whereas I will just go and make myself a nice cup of tea.

Make two as yer at it, ta. 

Trying to keep up with all the lingo in this diary, but struggle sometimes.

[Chompy]

They never learn, good old Kinky...

Place betting IR...

5.10               £70         
6.00               £39         
11.00               £17    

I got none of the 5.1, sigh

[tikay]

They never learn, good old Kinky...

Place betting IR...

5.10               £70         
6.00               £39         
11.00               £17    

I got none of the 5.1, sigh

Sorry, but once again, translation plerase?

I will enjoy this thread even more if I understand all this stuff. Meat & drink to you, gobbeldeygook to me. And I don't think I'm entirely alone.

[doglayer]

Diff class chompy.  Only did it small as i dont really follow the horses but know enough about the game to do what you instructed on betfair.

I got all the 5.1 sorry on the place.  Just glad i never got more matched pre race on the place market as i wouldnt have been able to get rid of it.  860/1 was done on the beast in running to win the race.  Incred.  Nearly got up.  Feel robbed that i bet it back at 9.8 in running on the win market and hadnt been a bit more greedy and asked for 50s!!!!

A risk free win is a win 1/2 mile out though so shouldnt complain.  Esp as the fav fell early.  I thought the lay offs in runnning might never happen.  If it still happens when the short priced fav falls this beast must be a dream IR every time it runs.

Horse Racing > Towc 3rd Feb : 2m Hcap Chs Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
 
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Kinkeel  9.80 100.00 Back 03-Feb-11 14:04  -100.00
Kinkeel  4.20 222.00 Lay 03-Feb-11 14:06  222.00
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: -100.00
Lay subtotal: 222.00
Market subtotal: 122.00
Commission @ 2%: 2.44
Net Market Total: 119.56
  
 
Selection Odds Stake(£) Bid type Placed Profit/loss(£)
Kinkeel  5.10 35.00 Back 03-Feb-11 14:10  143.50
Kinkeel  2.66 76.66 Lay 03-Feb-11 14:07  -127.25
*Average odds: On  Off  Back subtotal: 143.50
Lay subtotal: -127.25
Market subtotal: 16.25
Commission @ 2.03%: 0.33
Net Market Total: 15.92


  

[Chompy]

Yup, no more IR jargon.

Pleasing to finally have an afternoon of just betting IR and no Racing Post work in between. Covered over 100 Wolverhampton runners the last couple of days and that's 100 too many. Hapless task trying to predict what's gonna happen in all-weather races. Nothing to say about most of them. Zzztastic. Do like Garstang tomorrow night though.

Got so used to tiddle-arsing (Edna phrase that's perfection), getting up whenever, playing a bit of online scrabz, ambling down the gym, or whatever, that this spotlight stuff is a shock to the system.

Way behind with cinema stuff but will force myself to the G tonight as LML is gonna be present apparently.

[tikay]

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.

[Chompy]

Wpwpwpwp doglayer. See what happens? I flag it up on here and the pooch brigade come in and nick all the valooooooo!

Nah, don't mind at all really, I traded out ealier this time so was never getting any 5.1. That 5.1 layer makes me laugh. He must lose over time, gets so many wrong.

[Chompy]

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.

The Racing Post have missed a real trick here. When they started Trading Post around five years ago it was supposed to be a page solely dedicated to exchange players, focusing on IR stuff. Matt Williams was the main man and I was gonna fill in two or three days a week when he was off work.

The page started well but then gradually became just another standard tipping piece. They dropped me without telling me. Standard for them. Then Matt left about a year ago just to bet IR full time. They lost a good man when he left.

One obvious idea they never tried was a race by race IR guide, pointing out the likes of Kinkeel. Never asked me though 

[doglayer]

Quite incred that what you said would happen pre race virtually happened to the letter even at the distances you said they would.  Towcester is a brutal track though and many a mug IR punter must have been on the phone to ocean finance after a bad one at towcester. 

[Chompy]

Whatever happened to those marv Ocean Finance ads on ATR?

Used to be perfect for the stay-at-home punter. Two adverts rotating. One for Ocean Finance to borrow back the money you've just lost, and one for Chums Trousers, waistband up to 52".

[TightEnd]

are there tracks where IR cannot work so well?

I understand Towcester will because of topography, and I suppose the same applies to the Cheltenham hill..but when they are going round the flat park course like Haydock or Sandown then surely one of your major variables in profitability, namely the quirks of the course, is removed?

[Chompy]

Not really. Two complete non-truths in racing. One that trying to make all the running is 'doing it the hard way'. Two, that it's easier to make all the running on an easy course/course with flat or downhill finish.

Anyone starting out betting IR on the Flat would do worse than to back any horse that gets an easy lead round a stiff course. Stiff courses = the likes of Beverley, Sandown, Carlisle, quite a few others.

I have my favourite IR courses, Hexham and Towcester, and least favourite, Southwell and Bath, but they're all playable.

[doglayer]

kelso pretty bad i think because of the awful camera angle late on.   Sure from memory of reading the Rpost betting books i got one xmas!!!!!!!!

[The Camel]

No, we want more IR Stuff - but some of us just need a bit of help with the lingo.

The Racing Post have missed a real trick here. When they started Trading Post around five years ago it was supposed to be a page solely dedicated to exchange players, focusing on IR stuff. Matt Williams was the main man and I was gonna fill in two or three days a week when he was off work.

The page started well but then gradually became just another standard tipping piece. They dropped me without telling me. Standard for them. Then Matt left about a year ago just to bet IR full time. They lost a good man when he left.

One obvious idea they never tried was a race by race IR guide, pointing out the likes of Kinkeel. Never asked me though 

Surely you'll make more money by using your knowledge of the IR game, than you would earn imparting gems like Kinkeel on the betting public in the RP.

The thing which always annoys me about the post is how price insensitive their tipsters are (in the main).

A horse who is a lay at 2.1 might well be a good bet at 2.5. I doubt I've ever seen a tipster say something like this in the Post.

Segal is incred, but the rest are moderate, you are better off without them.

[doglayer]

The original owner of ocean finance has sold up i think.  I have seen him in several casinos around the uk and he is a monster punter.  He would routinely sit at a roulette table with £100k to start a session if the table limits made it possible.  From memory i think he took 10% off stanleys share price in one night a few years ago at star city in bham when he took them for £3m.  It was a full page story in the sun.  Maybe with him selling up the new owners dont quite have the punting angle he had and dont use the racing media.  Although its a perfect medium for their product.