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« on: January 06, 2011, 05:09:53 PM »

Hi Guy's

Right I played this hand on Sky Poker so I can't get a proper hand history and will have to explain it all. It is a 6 max 15p/30p game with £30 max buyin. I have about £40 and the Villain covers me. I have 10-10 on the button and it folds to me. I make it £1.20, small blind folds and the BB calls.

Flop comes down Q-10-3 rainbow (nice)

The BB checks to me and I bet £2 into the £2.55 pot. He calls and the pot is now £6.55
The river is an 8 and puts a flush draw on the board. He checks, I bet £5 into the pot and he calls again
The river is 4 and does not complete any flush draw. He checks to me. The pot is £16.55 and I have about £32.

I think he has something like AQ or maybe some weird two pair - what is the right size of the bet? Have I played all of the streets right (I think it is fine up to this point)?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 05:11:27 PM »

make it £9.99
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 05:12:05 PM »

looks fine 2/3 pot should get paid - you could even bet like half pot if you think it might induce a shove
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 05:15:32 PM »

I open to 3x pre here on the button. 4x is too much i think in 6m cash with no limpers, in position with the nuts.

I bet like 11.55 now
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 05:20:14 PM »

£21.25
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 05:42:22 PM »

sky has a '3/4 pot' button doesn't it? I just press this in all honesty as I'm pretty lazy and it's about the right amount
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 05:51:23 PM »

£13.50
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 05:53:56 PM »

Great thanks guy's

I bet £12 which seems about right - he called with K-Q. A few people thought I could have overbet here but probably would not have got paid, just wanted to check some thoughts on it.

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 05:58:19 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 06:16:12 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me

Exactly, we shouldn't do this with AA/KK because he probably folds Qx, so because we shouldn't do this, we should.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 06:52:03 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me

Exactly, we shouldn't do this with AA/KK because he probably folds Qx, so because we shouldn't do this, we should.

[  ] Folds Tx on Skypoker
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 06:53:49 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me

Exactly, we shouldn't do this with AA/KK because he probably folds Qx, so because we shouldn't do this, we should.

[  ] Folds Tx on Skypoker

I am advocating the overbet incase you got my post mixed up. Was saying he doesnt fold Qx, but 10x too most likely.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 07:00:28 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me

Exactly, we shouldn't do this with AA/KK because he probably folds Qx, so because we shouldn't do this, we should.

[  ] Folds Tx on Skypoker

I am advocating the overbet incase you got my post mixed up. Was saying he doesnt fold Qx, but 10x too most likely.

Ahh k.

Anyway it's Sky, just bet-bet-bet, they have 2nd pair or better they call you. Not many players c/r bluff but some raise or c/r top pair to find out where they are. Also people make comedy peels OOP and peel 3-bets way too light in and out of position. It's highly exploitable.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 07:01:33 PM »

Nah value betting 100% of the time here. Never really overbetting in this spot. He doesnt have many 2 pair combos OTR, your hoping he just levels himself into calling with one pair hands.

£12 seems good to me

Exactly, we shouldn't do this with AA/KK because he probably folds Qx, so because we shouldn't do this, we should.

[  ] Folds Tx on Skypoker

I am advocating the overbet incase you got my post mixed up. Was saying he doesnt fold Qx, but 10x too most likely.



I definately took into consideration the fact we're playing .15/.30, WP me. I retract the statement about overbetting :$
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2011, 08:43:01 PM »

So I should be overbetting here then?

This would not get paid on 'Stars $50nl games I am sure but Sky Poker is quite a bit softer. Bluffing is definately a bad idea. Do you think it is a case of if they call your flop and turn bet on a dry board the best thing to do is just shove?
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