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« Reply #3480 on: January 15, 2021, 11:45:49 AM »

We’re short of at least one sad in the title.

Losing 6-1 to Spurs fades into insignificance compared to the ineptitude of Woodward and whoever else is supposed to be handling transfers.
Still, freak results happen, and at least both our and City’s recent big losses were against Top 6 teams.
Must be really galling for LFC fans to not be able to rub it in.


Your unbeaten run started after the later Arsenal defeat and not the Spurs mauling.

Still mightily impressive results since then if not always performance with W9 Dr2 L0 since then.

Value at 7/1 for the title?
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« Reply #3481 on: January 15, 2021, 11:56:18 AM »

Cant help but be pleased for Solskjaer, seems like one of lifes good guys.

True this, think he has had the rub of the green this season, but am genuinely pleased for him.

I just looked up the xG table to see how lucky he had been, and the answer is quite a bit, but not massively so.  xG still has Manchester United in 3rd.  

https://understat.com/league/EPL

As an aside Sheffield United, Brighton, Chelsea and Fulham are the teams that have run bad, and none have lost faith in their manager yet.  West Brom really looked doomed, and Newcastle shoild be in the relegation scrap, though we knew that already.


United and City were impacted more than anyone by the lack of preseason due late involvement in European comps (City's pre-season started on 14/9 and the first league fixture was 21/9) meaning both so far off the pace in the early weeks.

If you recalculate the understat table with a 17/10 start date (after the 1st in season international break)  you see a different picture - United/City 1st and 2nd on points & City/United 1st and 2nd on expected points.

Credit particularly to United for that.
Happy for them to finish 2nd ahead of Liverpool  if City go on to win it Smiley
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« Reply #3482 on: January 15, 2021, 12:19:48 PM »

Cant help but be pleased for Solskjaer, seems like one of lifes good guys.

Absolutely. He still commands the full support of the Manchester City fanbase.

Don't think this was a good look for him:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/02/14/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-not-fit-lead-manchester-united-says-woman/

No, it wasn’t.

Kyle Walker still getting games.
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« Reply #3483 on: January 15, 2021, 02:21:44 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.
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« Reply #3484 on: January 15, 2021, 05:32:35 PM »

Welcome back, Archer!

Definitely a much missed poster*

*Even if you're a City fan Smiley
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« Reply #3485 on: January 15, 2021, 07:24:45 PM »

I am sure the PE teacher is a **** given he is a PE teacher.  But which PE teacher and what connection does he have with Kyle Walker?



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« Reply #3486 on: January 16, 2021, 12:00:57 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.


Bruno has been a massive influence, but four time player of the month in basically one season is probably OTT. I’m surprised at the absentees from the list. No KdB, no VvD, no Yaya, no Keane, no David Silva, no Vierra. But they had a lot more competition in their prime.

Who are you cheering for tomorrow?
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« Reply #3487 on: January 16, 2021, 03:11:12 PM »

Welcome back, Archer!

Definitely a much missed poster*

*Even if you're a City fan Smiley

 thumbs up thumbs up

Need hyy to stir things up
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« Reply #3488 on: January 16, 2021, 03:16:24 PM »

I am sure the PE teacher is a **** given he is a PE teacher.  But which PE teacher and what connection does he have with Kyle Walker?


PE teacher is one of the friendly nicknames given to Ole by certain northern football supporters and pops introduced walker to the thread not me....
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« Reply #3489 on: January 16, 2021, 03:28:09 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.


Bruno has been a massive influence, but four time player of the month in basically one season is probably OTT. I’m surprised at the absentees from the list. No KdB, no VvD, no Yaya, no Keane, no David Silva, no Vierra. But they had a lot more competition in their prime.

Who are you cheering for tomorrow?

KDB 0
Yaya 0
Silva 1
VVD 1
Keane 2
Vierra 0

Fernandes 4  lol

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Draw>United win>Liverpool win


Both United & Liverpool dropping 2 points is best. If we go on to beat Palace we'll be 1 point ahead of Liverpool with game in hand and 2 points behind you with the same game in hand.  So, poll position for top spot as we approach the half way spot of the season.


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« Reply #3490 on: January 16, 2021, 03:30:43 PM »

Welcome back, Archer!

Definitely a much missed poster*

*Even if you're a City fan Smiley

 thumbs up thumbs up

Need hyy to stir things up

Definitely!

Handy to have him around so he can give us the behind the scenes on flights starting up, too Grin
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« Reply #3491 on: January 16, 2021, 08:05:51 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.


Bruno has been a massive influence, but four time player of the month in basically one season is probably OTT. I’m surprised at the absentees from the list. No KdB, no VvD, no Yaya, no Keane, no David Silva, no Vierra. But they had a lot more competition in their prime.

Who are you cheering for tomorrow?

KDB 0
Yaya 0
Silva 1
VVD 1
Keane 2
Vierra 0

Fernandes 4  lol

-----------------

Draw>United win>Liverpool win


Both United & Liverpool dropping 2 points is best. If we go on to beat Palace we'll be 1 point ahead of Liverpool with game in hand and 2 points behind you with the same game in hand.  So, poll position for top spot as we approach the half way spot of the season.




I agree with you on the player of the month stuff, but apparently the only players in Europe with more ‘goal involvements’ than Bruno in the period since he arrived in the EPL are CR7, Messi, and Lewandowski...


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« Reply #3492 on: January 16, 2021, 11:48:34 PM »

Cant help but be pleased for Solskjaer, seems like one of lifes good guys.

Absolutely. He still commands the full support of the Manchester City fanbase.

Don't think this was a good look for him:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/02/14/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-not-fit-lead-manchester-united-says-woman/

Genuinely think abuse and violence against women is one of the major scourges that never gets sufficient attention but dont really expect employers and managers to act as police judge and jury when someone is accused.
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« Reply #3493 on: January 17, 2021, 12:02:42 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.


Bruno has been a massive influence, but four time player of the month in basically one season is probably OTT. I’m surprised at the absentees from the list. No KdB, no VvD, no Yaya, no Keane, no David Silva, no Vierra. But they had a lot more competition in their prime.

Who are you cheering for tomorrow?

KDB 0
Yaya 0
Silva 1
VVD 1
Keane 2
Vierra 0

Fernandes 4  lol

-----------------

Draw>United win>Liverpool win


Both United & Liverpool dropping 2 points is best. If we go on to beat Palace we'll be 1 point ahead of Liverpool with game in hand and 2 points behind you with the same game in hand.  So, poll position for top spot as we approach the half way spot of the season.




I agree with you on the player of the month stuff, but apparently the only players in Europe with more ‘goal involvements’ than Bruno in the period since he arrived in the EPL are CR7, Messi, and Lewandowski...




Fun stat if true.
27G+17A in 3854mins  is impressive.  15 penalties included in the 27 goals distorts the numbers somewhat.    Salah was at 43G + 15A in 17/18. with just the 1 pen.

Don't want to dismiss his influence though. Obviously a fantastic player and massively impactful for you so can totally understand the love-in. You've needed it for while.







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« Reply #3494 on: January 17, 2021, 02:58:37 PM »


What's Walker got to do with anything? He's an idiot.
Meanwhile, the PE teacher is presented as some nice guy when really deep down he is a ****.

Anyway, I was generally saying nice things about United  Wink

Just seen Fernandes has won Player of the Month for the 4th time.

Made me smile.

He joins this group of PL greats who have also won it 4 times:
Dennis Bergkamp
Thierry Henry
Frank Lampard
Cristiano Ronaldo
Paul Scholes
Alan Shearer[d]
Jamie Vardy

Only these ahead of him:

Rooney 5
RVP 5
Gerrard 6
Kane 6
Aguero7
 

And looking at those players you'll understand why it made me smile.


Bruno has been a massive influence, but four time player of the month in basically one season is probably OTT. I’m surprised at the absentees from the list. No KdB, no VvD, no Yaya, no Keane, no David Silva, no Vierra. But they had a lot more competition in their prime.

Who are you cheering for tomorrow?

KDB 0
Yaya 0
Silva 1
VVD 1
Keane 2
Vierra 0

Fernandes 4  lol

-----------------

Draw>United win>Liverpool win


Both United & Liverpool dropping 2 points is best. If we go on to beat Palace we'll be 1 point ahead of Liverpool with game in hand and 2 points behind you with the same game in hand.  So, poll position for top spot as we approach the half way spot of the season.




I agree with you on the player of the month stuff, but apparently the only players in Europe with more ‘goal involvements’ than Bruno in the period since he arrived in the EPL are CR7, Messi, and Lewandowski...




Fun stat if true.
27G+17A in 3854mins  is impressive.  15 penalties included in the 27 goals distorts the numbers somewhat.    Salah was at 43G + 15A in 17/18. with just the 1 pen.

Don't want to dismiss his influence though. Obviously a fantastic player and massively impactful for you so can totally understand the love-in. You've needed it for while.


He has almost eliminated my KdB envy
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