Plo Wrap and fl draw Deep

[maldini32]

ZSIPAL VPP 24% PFR 20% fold cbet to a raise 36%

alonso (apart from running like a train) vpp  32% pfr 20%


***** Hand History for Game 2590569921 ***** (IPoker)
$100.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, January 11, 11:49:53 ET 2011
Table Dedal (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: hero ( $202.50 USD )
Seat 3: Zsipali87 ( $254.80 USD )
Seat 5: KEDRAAAAA ( $93.00 USD )
Seat 6: alonsoCP ( $106.30 USD )
Seat 8: senditnow007 ( $106.40 USD )
Seat 10: rutters666 ( $88.60 USD )
rutters666 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
hero posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [  Ah ]
Zsipali87 raises [$3.50 USD]
KEDRAAAAA folds
alonsoCP calls [$3.50 USD]
senditnow007 folds
rutters666 calls [$3.00 USD]
hero calls [$2.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
rutters666 checks
hero checks
Zsipali87 bets [$11.00 USD]
alonsoCP raises [$47.00 USD]
rutters666 folds


HERO?

[Dubai]

Just pot it, even against a set and nut flush draw, you are marginal fav- you have back dr hearts

Ur fav against JT99 and AKKx clubs- obv this changes depending on split outs/blockers but you're equity will never be bad enough against their ranges to consider folding, Especially since its obv highly likely original bettor will fold once its gone, raise re-raise- and against top set ur favourite

[SuuPRlim]

ZOMMMMMMMMMMG wat an incred hand

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Just pot it

glgl

[GreekStein]

hmm

[EvilPie]

Quite like flatting to try to keep Zsipali in. Also gives the option of folding if it pairs the turn.

Not passing a non paired turn if we brick so no real rush to get it in.

[Dubai]

With the nut fl draw this would probably be correct, however we are usually better off potting to "clean" up our outs

[EvilPie]

With the nut fl draw this would probably be correct, however we are usually better off potting to "clean" up our outs

Aye makes sense.

[ACE2M]

Seems fairly standard.

What is the opinion here with say 400bb stacks. OOP what about flating these spots to jam any non pair turn that completes any draw especially HU?

[GreekStein]

With the nut fl draw this would probably be correct, however we are usually better off potting to "clean" up our outs

You think the nfd is folding?

[doubleup]

hmm

+1

think this is going to be very marginal overall, we have nothing invested so I'm out

[GreekStein]

hmm

+1

think this is going to be very marginal overall, we have nothing invested so I'm out

Gotta agree.

I can't see myself shoving here and I'm not flatting so think I fold.

[maldini32]

Seems fairly standard.

What is the opinion here with say 400bb stacks. OOP what about flating these spots to jam any non pair turn that completes any draw especially HU?

I disagree, if we had kqjx wit clubs then id say its more standard. Our only nut outs are an offsuit 6 or a 7.

It looks so pretty tho

Fwiw im fairly sure i spooned this hand, ill wait for a few more replies before i reveal what happened

[Dubai]

Not expecting nut flush draw to fold- but people with badish wraps and no fd will fold, meaning we clean up our straight outs and KKxx with clubs can fold, cleaning our flush outs v sets etc

[Patonius2000]

Just pot it, even against a set and nut flush draw, you are marginal fav- you have back dr hearts

Ur fav against JT99 and AKKx clubs- obv this changes depending on split outs/blockers but you're equity will never be bad enough against their ranges to consider folding, Especially since its obv highly likely original bettor will fold once its gone, raise re-raise- and against top set ur favourite

This first statement is way off. We have 38% vs *c33(99/TT).
He can't have JT99 with clubs. We're a flip vs *cKK. That said you should probably just pot it and the italicised part explains why. I would usually lead the flop also.

[Dubai]

3 way Rob. 3 way- hence why it says THEIR RANGES plural