Plo Wrap and fl draw Deep

[Patonius2000]

3 way Rob. 3 way

sigh

[GreekStein]

Don't you boys think we often get it in in really bad shape here?

They show up a lot with like AAJ8 with clubs and 1010xx

[Dubai]

cant really put someone on exactly AAJ8 with nut flush draw because they continuation bet?

The raiser on flop only has 100bbs- i dont really think its close unless original preflop raiser and flop bettor has a continuation bet % under 20, even then i doubt i fold

[maldini32]

Don't you boys think we often get it in in really bad shape here?

They show up a lot with like AAJ8 with clubs and 1010xx

for the first time ever

+1

[Dubai]

You cant put people on total nut hands and worse case scenarios for us, just by them raising pre and continuation betting! Even if u played the hand and know results

Im not one for overplaying hands in single raised pots at 6max and i think its a pretty standard stackoff.

[Patonius2000]

ok reading comprehension ftw whatever.

600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: 9cTc3h
Hand   Equity   Wins   Ties
Jc7cAh8h   34.74%   203,155   10,678
TT**   43.55%   258,875   4,902
*c**   21.71%   127,074   6,371

We actually do worse than this since that is 100% of combos of the second 2 hands, but I cba to mess about with pql since it's obvious we should be allin.

[doubleup]

cant really put someone on exactly AAJ8 with nut flush draw because they continuation bet?

The raiser on flop only has 100bbs- i dont really think its close unless original preflop raiser and flop bettor has a continuation bet % under 20, even then i doubt i fold

c bet multiway oop wet flop is a lot different to cbet hu ip.

[Dubai]

They arent putting him on overpair and flush draw- they are putting him on overpair, flush draw and open end straight draw. But obv people play different, so i said what i think and others can make their minds up

[EvilPie]

They arent putting him on overpair and flush draw- they are putting him on overpair, flush draw and open end straight draw. But obv people play different, so i said what i think and others can make their minds up

I agree with Dave.

If you'd like to quote that line and use it as your sig with '[X] life complete' attached please feel free to do so btw Mr. S.

[GreekStein]

Don't you boys think we often get it in in really bad shape here?

They show up a lot with like AAJ8 with clubs and 1010xx

for the first time ever
+1

Sick digs.

[SuuPRlim]

Im pretty sure flatting is worse than folding by quite a bit,

Our equity is very strong vs almost any range atm (uber nuts excuded) but will can decrease heavily on various turns, I know it's obvious that with a draw ur equity is often going to be less on the turn than the flop, but it should be pretty obvious why we're going to loose a ton of EV calling the flop and folding some turns when our equity is so strong on the flop.

we're not even really that deep and as Dubai says we have absolutely no reason to give either player credit for a SUPER nutted range at all, the raiser is, admittedly raising a c-bet into 3 players but expects to have a decent amount of fold equity and the initial better has way way more bet-folds then bet-stack-offs here surely.....

250bb+ deep and it gets interesting imo

[SuuPRlim]

sick 1000'th post ^

i realise its all been said already as well but i am stunned anyone wants to fold this, look at our hand, its awesome!

[maldini32]

Don't you boys think we often get it in in really bad shape here?

They show up a lot with like AAJ8 with clubs and 1010xx

for the first time ever
+1

Sick digs.

haha, not at you mate more just me putting +1 on anything

[SuuPRlim]

Fwiw im fairly sure i spooned this hand, ill wait for a few more replies before i reveal what happened

Suspense is kiling me...............

[GreekStein]

Don't you boys think we often get it in in really bad shape here?

They show up a lot with like AAJ8 with clubs and 1010xx

for the first time ever
+1

Sick digs.

haha, not at you mate more just me putting +1 on anything

I still think this is a fold btw.

I respect Dubai and Patonius's opinions hugely. They are far better Omaha players than I am but at these levels I think it's a fold.

I ran this hand by my mentor at Pokerfarm too and he said it was a fold for him.