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Nem
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NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 09:42:37 AM »
Here is a hand from a HU NL cash game.
Villain
is a good aggressive player, 50 hands ago Villain got lucky and busted the Hero's
with
. Villain keeps on consistently raising OOP with a various range of hands.
Blinds £10/£20
Hero OTB
has £3264
Villain
has £4233
Hero
is dealt
Villain
raises to £60
Hero
raises to £180
Villain
calls
Flop:
Villain
checks
What now...?
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12barblues
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 10:41:09 AM »
No idea where I stand, so bet £240 (two thirds of pot) and see what happens.
I don't care much for the pre-flop re-raise. I would be a lot happier betting £80 into a £120 pot.
That said, £10/£20 HU cash is so far above my lowly level that I get a nose bleed even thinking about it. Scary stuff. I am very interested to see what some of the site's big guns suggest here.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 10:50:24 AM »
I aggree with 12barblues a strong bet with two thieds of the pot, he will probably come over the top if he's bluffing particularly if he's a loosey goosey, However if he flat calls you might be in schtook, so if the flat call comes take the free card.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 02:26:36 PM »
I'm not even going to touch it, NL cash not my game at all.
I'd check, fold, cash out and play a tournament.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 02:42:10 PM »
Quote from: thetank on December 29, 2005, 02:26:36 PM
I'm not even going to touch it, NL cash not my game at all.
I'd check, fold, cash out and play a tournament.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 02:50:55 PM »
His check is a sign of weakness.
Bet.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 03:36:47 PM »
Quote from: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2005, 02:50:55 PM
His check is a sign of weakness.
Bet.
Or strength
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 03:39:55 PM »
Quote from: ifm on December 29, 2005, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2005, 02:50:55 PM
His check is a sign of weakness.
Bet.
Or strength
Worry about that when you're raised. Free cards are not to be bought out of position with a check.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 29, 2005, 03:41:40 PM »
I realise that, i was implying you have no idea at all what he has (monster or nothing), the only thing to do is to bet to gain info.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 09:56:51 AM »
Here is a hand from a HU NL cash game.
Villain is a good aggressive player, 50 hands ago Villain got lucky and busted the Hero's with . Villain keeps on consistently raising OOP with a various range of hands.
Blinds £10/£20
Hero OTB has £3264
Villain has £4233
Hero is dealt
Villain raises to £60
Hero raises to £180
Villain calls
Flop:
Villain checks
What now...?
OK, on to the turn...
Hero
bets £300
Villain
calls £300
There is £960 in the pot
The turn card is the
So the flop is:
The
Villain
checks
What now...?
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 10:25:40 AM »
OMG! 20 outs but only 1 is definitely clean......what a 'mare.........
A 'normal' size bet runs the risk of being check-raised all in and being blasted out of the pot as I don't see how we can call?
If we check and miss completely or, worse, hit a 'tainted' out we still don't know where we stand.
So, all in.....and then reload when it goes horribly wrong.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 12:30:22 PM »
I can only agree. I know it's a huge overbet but I still think I move all-in for several reasons
1. I'm quite happy for him to pass and just collect the pot if he passes, which is quite sizeable. I certainly dont want to lose this pot to a A5 offsuit type hand where I give him a free card to hit an ace
2. if you check you wont really know where you are on the river, and he may well give you a very difficult decision. You may end up folding when you should call or calling when you should fold
3. At this point with a card to come he may make a dreadful call with 10J off suit or similar...and he should miss most of the time
Stick it in and win
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 05:28:08 PM »
I woul check, flat calling out of position scares the hell out of me. He may well have a set. If we are going to bet on the turn then it has to be all in, but i think that is a bit silly (ducking) as we open up to a set.
Check and take the card, if you hit the river but not hard enough then u can flat call and limit your loss, if you smack the river and it turns out he has nothing he is likely to bluff putting you on a missed ace.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 05:53:17 PM »
I understand what you are saying but, apart from
for the absolute nuts (and
for the non-nut straight flush), what card(s) would you like to see on the river? And how much would you be prepared to call? The uncertainty would be too much for me, which is why I want to give him the headache.
I'm perfectly happy to concede that my all in may be a response to being outplayed. At least he can't outplay me on the river. And I do have a lot of outs, even if I don't know what they are.
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Re: NL Cash Game
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December 30, 2005, 06:12:22 PM »
As awful a decision as it is, the turn is much more likely to be a horror card for him than it is for you.
I would take the play out of this hand and just go all in. He'll most likely get timed out wondering what the hell you've got.
By the way I think when you are worried about being outplayed in a hand like this, there is nothing at all wrong with taking the skill out of it.
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