Andy Gray Sacked

[Maxriddles]

Does all this mean the cast of Itv daytime show "Loose Women" will now be sacked?

We can only hope!!

Heard someone say Andy Gray is taking legal action against the News of the World over alledged phone tapping, I don't suppose that could have anything to do with it. 

No hint of sexism at all on the front page of the Scottish edition of the Sun today lol, it had a large picture of the referee's assistant concerned at a night out in short skirt. little top and looking rather hot with the banner headline of "Get them off" with two tiny pics of Gray and Keys making out it was all about them being taken off air last night. 

[MANTIS01]

Do women have a place in football? Personally I think women are equal and have exactly the same right to be involved in the game as men. But football is historically a male dominated sport that has banter and ribbing running through it's veins in every changing room in every team on every pitch in the land. So I don't know how women can hope for equality in the sport if they require special protection from such banter. Whenever somebody new starts in any walk of life they get banter directed at them. There was a new lino that looked about 14yrs old last season. He got ribbed for looking like a child. It sends out the complete wrong message if you say women must be protected from banter...because they are women see and they can't cope. Andy Gray is not a decision maker at the FA so nothing he can say or do will prevent the development of women in football, his comments were off air to male colleagues who joined in the banter. None of those guys seriously think that a professional lino doesn't have the ability to flag offside because she is a woman. The best thing for any newcomer to do is to prove their worth ie get out on the pitch and make good decisions (which she actually did). But unfortunately the FA pulled her from tonight's game to protect her from anymore hurtful comments. See.

Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks. Make him feel like 2ft tall. This guy has lost his career due to commercial image worries and his salary as opposed to protecting women's rights. Sky have been quite pathetic in their stance because by overtly protecting women they have rendered them less than equals.

[redarmi]

The second offence Gray was sacked for is obviously and totally worse than the first.

Making sexual overtones and belittling a female colleague is bullying pure and simple.

Whether or not he made the first gaffe, this behaviour was definitely more than enough to get him fired.

+1....we are all guilty of making off the cuff remarks about women but most of us are sensible enough to understand that those same comments would be inappropriate and could be deemed to be threatening and abusive in the company of those females.  He did it in a manner which was meant to demean her and make a joke at her expense.  He deserved to go on the basis of that alone.

[TRIP5]

Keys next ?

Every link I've tried to watch this on has been closed by YT...

xx

Might work now...

 

[thetank]

the FA pulled her from tonight's game to protect her from anymore hurtful comments.

Sorry to spoil your narrative but the FA pulled her because they want the focus to be on the football and not on the officiating.

[Maxriddles]

Have just read through the whole thread and just wanted to add that woman's football is rubbish, although at the highest level of the women's game it hits the dizzy heights of pretty rubbish. Some of the national level stuff is so rubbish it's funny. There are other woman's sports I do find watchable based on their sporting merits but footall isn't one of them.

As for female officials I have no problem with them at all and I am sure they can officiate as well as any man. After all those of us who are married men are already well aware women are never wrong.  

[ripple11]

If you watch closely, the microphone funny in the studio was met with a laugh from the female colleague.  Just as she goes off camera. Funny shit!

She certainly does appear to be smiling at Gray, just as the camera cuts away .....as seen from the videos online.

 Interestingly,this isn't shown on the Sky news reports on TV.

[MANTIS01]

the FA pulled her from tonight's game to protect her from anymore hurtful comments.

Sorry to spoil your narrative but the FA pulled her because they want the focus to be on the football and not on the officiating.

Who would focus on the officiating? Would you? I wouldn't. I would be more interested in the game as I don't see any issue or problem with the officiating. But if you did want to focus your attention on the officiating at the expense of the football I'm sure you would conclude that the officiating was of a capable and professional standard. Thus I cannot accept your apology as you haven't spoilt my narrative.

[thetank]

Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.

Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.



I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)

I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.

[thetank]

the FA pulled her from tonight's game to protect her from anymore hurtful comments.

Sorry to spoil your narrative but the FA pulled her because they want the focus to be on the football and not on the officiating.

Who would focus on the officiating?

The media presumably, the people with notepads and cameras. About 50,000 people in the country give a shit about the Crewe game and 5,000,000 want to see a picture of Sian at work so they can see if she looks upset or not.

The idea that media circus around linesman not fair on the players isn't too ridonkolous.

From the beeb news...

PGMO general manager Mike Riley said: "PGMO and Sian believe that with any football match the focus should not be on the officials but on the players and the game itself. That is only fair to those connected with the clubs and their supporters.

Presumably your 'they done her off the game coz they wanted to protect her from nasty men saying stuff' is your own conjecture?

[MANTIS01]

Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.

Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.



I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)

I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.

Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.

[MANTIS01]

the FA pulled her from tonight's game to protect her from anymore hurtful comments.

Sorry to spoil your narrative but the FA pulled her because they want the focus to be on the football and not on the officiating.

Who would focus on the officiating?

The media presumably, the people with notepads and cameras. About 50,000 people in the country give a shit about the Crewe game and 5,000,000 want to see a picture of Sian at work so they can see if she looks upset or not.

The idea that media circus around linesman not fair on the players isn't too ridonkolous.

From the beeb news...

PGMO general manager Mike Riley said: "PGMO and Sian believe that with any football match the focus should not be on the officials but on the players and the game itself. That is only fair to those connected with the clubs and their supporters.

Presumably your 'they done her off the game coz they wanted to protect her from nasty men saying stuff' is your own conjecture?

The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight. I would trust her not to make a mistake and officiate well. Because she has been trained professionally. How will the decision tonight lessen the spotlight next week or the week after that. Thus should women ever be allowed to officiate again if the attention should be on the game and not the officials??

[thetank]

Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.

Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.



I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)

I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.

Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.

I hate to spoil your zingy zing zinger but second half of post is talking about the Sian Massey lineswomen chick and her career officiating football games.

[thetank]

 How will the decision tonight lessen the spotlight next week or the week after that. Thus should women ever be allowed to officiate again if the attention should be on the game and not the officials??

I think it's unlikely that national attention will be focused on this story and it's derivatives indefinately.  There will be something new next week to talk about.

News tends to come up with new shit, maybe why it's called news (the 'hit' from 'new shit' being dropped back in the 1830s)

[MANTIS01]

Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.

Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.



I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)

I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.

Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.

I hate to spoil your zingy zing zinger but second half of post is talking about the Sian Massey lineswomen chick and her career officiating football games.

Oh ok, you have kinda spoilt my zingy zinger now thou cos I don't think the lino is fit at all