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thetank
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight.
You have a source on this or is it purely your own conjecture?
Just to be clear, if it's the latter, then your narrative also assumes a second thing. That the FA (or PGMO or ASDA or whoever the fuck decides which ref goes to which park on a given day) would not do this if a male linesman was involved so heavily in the story of the sacking of a long standing Sky presenter.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:52:03 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:44:13 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
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Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.
Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.
I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)
I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.
Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.
I hate to spoil your zingy zing zinger but second half of post is talking about the Sian Massey lineswomen chick and her career officiating football games.
Oh ok, you have kinda spoilt my zingy zinger now thou cos I don't think the lino is fit at all
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MANTIS01
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Reply #182 on:
January 26, 2011, 01:01:30 AM »
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:53:37 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight.
You have a source on this or is it purely your own conjecture?
Just to be clear, if it's the latter, then your narrative also assumes a second thing. That the FA (or PGMO or ASDA or whoever the fuck decides which ref goes to which park on a given day) would not do this if a male linesman was involved so heavily in the story of the sacking of a long standing Sky presenter.
My narrative does assume that second thing. Cos if they took the same decision with regard to the male gender who would officiate the game? Did another female officate tonight? If so no problem with the decision. If not then they've decided it's not this lino that's the issue it's this lino's gender that's the issue. Very sexist imo.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:04:08 AM »
Karen Brady's comments. Would ya smash her? I would.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12279233
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:15:35 AM »
I don't understand half the peoples views on here of Andy as a pundit/commentator.
Whenever i watch sky matches he sees things that no one else sees on the field, he makes remarks that are so far above what you hear from all other commentators and its like he knows whats going to happen before it happens. His analysis is brilliant too.
Fair enough he was a knobhead in these clips and maybe deserves to lose his job (i personally think an apology and a major slap on the wrist would suffice) but questioning his ability to do the job he does??? He is the best out there by a country mile!!!
Mondatoo says he is biased, and HitlerBoshi agrees but who on earth is he biased towards? Who is he supposed to support? I've never heard any biased and being the sad young man i am, i watch almost all of skys televised football games.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:16:46 AM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:53:37 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight.
You have a source on this or is it purely your own conjecture?
Just to be clear, if it's the latter, then your narrative also assumes a second thing. That the FA (or PGMO or ASDA or whoever the fuck decides which ref goes to which park on a given day) would not do this if a male linesman was involved so heavily in the story of the sacking of a long standing Sky presenter.
My narrative does assume that second thing. Cos if they took the same decision with regard to the male gender who would officiate the game? Did another female officate tonight? If so no problem with the decision. If not then they've decided it's not this lino that's the issue it's this lino's gender that's the issue. Very sexist imo.
sigh, obv I'm on about pulling the individual from the upcoming game rather than all individuals of that gender.
That in Sian Massey's case pulling the individual pretty much is pulling the gender is a consequence or there not being a whole lot of female refs. (which in turn may well be the consequence of
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In fact the second part of your post makes no sense at all. About it being ok to pull a linesman that's in the news and wears bras from a game so long as you replace them with another linesman that wears bras.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:30:45 AM »
To me it seems like insiders at newscorp/murdochs empire have decided to stitch him up by getting him to say unsavoury comments that were quite possibly tounge in cheek and then hang him out to dry as punishment for threatening to sue a branch of the company he worked for.
Hilarious that the sun will feature a huge headline about Gray being a sexist dinosaur on page one then when we have finished reading we will be able to turn the page and ogle a top heavy beautys fantastic tits. Probably
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MANTIS01
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Reply #187 on:
January 26, 2011, 01:31:18 AM »
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 01:16:46 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:53:37 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight.
You have a source on this or is it purely your own conjecture?
Just to be clear, if it's the latter, then your narrative also assumes a second thing. That the FA (or PGMO or ASDA or whoever the fuck decides which ref goes to which park on a given day) would not do this if a male linesman was involved so heavily in the story of the sacking of a long standing Sky presenter.
My narrative does assume that second thing. Cos if they took the same decision with regard to the male gender who would officiate the game? Did another female officate tonight? If so no problem with the decision. If not then they've decided it's not this lino that's the issue it's this lino's gender that's the issue. Very sexist imo.
sigh, obv I'm on about pulling the individual from the upcoming game rather than all individuals of that gender.
That in Sian Massey's case pulling the individual pretty much is pulling the gender is a consequence or there not being a whole lot of female refs. (which in turn may well be the consequence of
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In fact the second part of your post makes no sense at all. About it being ok to pull a linesman that's in the news and wears bras from a game so long as you replace them with another linesman that wears bras.
Look mate first off you've gotta start saying ref's assisant or lino as saying linesman is dinosaur behaviour. Also I am 100% the decision to pull was gender based. And making gender based decisions when you have power is much worse than making gender based remarks when you don't.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:37:44 AM »
How do you know Andy Gray isn't one of those? By all accounts he's an arse in general not just to women.
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:23:26 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 25, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.
Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.
I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)
I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.
Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Reply #189 on:
January 26, 2011, 01:41:16 AM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 01:31:18 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 01:16:46 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 01:01:30 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:53:37 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:43:27 AM
The FA pulled her because they don't want her making a mistake under the spotlight.
You have a source on this or is it purely your own conjecture?
Just to be clear, if it's the latter, then your narrative also assumes a second thing. That the FA (or PGMO or ASDA or whoever the fuck decides which ref goes to which park on a given day) would not do this if a male linesman was involved so heavily in the story of the sacking of a long standing Sky presenter.
My narrative does assume that second thing. Cos if they took the same decision with regard to the male gender who would officiate the game? Did another female officate tonight? If so no problem with the decision. If not then they've decided it's not this lino that's the issue it's this lino's gender that's the issue. Very sexist imo.
sigh, obv I'm on about pulling the individual from the upcoming game rather than all individuals of that gender.
That in Sian Massey's case pulling the individual pretty much is pulling the gender is a consequence or there not being a whole lot of female refs. (which in turn may well be the consequence of
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wiffle
wiffle
wiffle
wiffle
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wiffle
)
In fact the second part of your post makes no sense at all. About it being ok to pull a linesman that's in the news and wears bras from a game so long as you replace them with another linesman that wears bras.
Look mate first off you've gotta start saying ref's assisant or lino as saying linesman is dinosaur behaviour. Also I am 100% the decision to pull was gender based. And making gender based decisions when you have power is much worse than making gender based remarks when you don't.
100% of my desicions to pull are gender based.
Well, 99.5%, but I was very young and very drunk.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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January 26, 2011, 01:46:07 AM »
Quote from: The Baron on January 26, 2011, 01:37:44 AM
How do you know Andy Gray isn't one of those? By all accounts he's an arse in general not just to women.
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 26, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: thetank on January 26, 2011, 12:23:26 AM
Quote from: MANTIS01 on January 25, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
Also the other incident. Why can't Charlotte turn round and say nah Andy you creepy old man I'm not touching your bollocks.
Coz she's about to go live in about 4 seconds and her mental preperation shouldn't involve an old man's root vegetables.
I know dinosaurs and young un's alike who aggresively want women the fuck out of football. Since women are allowed in pubs now, football is the one area of their lives left where they can enjoy all male company. (Why exactly this is essential is a question for the psychologists, perhaps women spoil things when you want to take the piss out of poofters so you need to keep it all sausage)
I doubt the level of "banter" this chick has had to put up with throughout her officiating career and your 14 year old lookalike is at all comparable. Pretty obv that she can put up with it though as she's risen to the level she has.
Really? Andy Gray is relaxed and joking with his colleague 4 secs before he goes on air but she needs space to mentally prepare to read the sports news. Why? Like I said shooting one back at him to scramble his brain 4 secs before they go on air would be a neat trick. The Sky decision is designed to demonstrate how much they disapprove of the dinosaurs and youing uns you know and they've used Andy Gray who isn't either of those as a pawn to achieve that. Also, I hate to spoil your narrative but she's risen to the level she has because she's fit.
If you had the chance Baron. And think before answering. Would you like to smash the female lino, Karen Brady, or Charlotte Jackson best?
Actually you can't have Charlotte Jackson as I bagsy her for myself. Oh and I think Woodsey did bagsy Karen Brady. So I'm afraid you're left with smashing the lino Baron. Sorry mate.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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From what I can see he's biased towards Ferguson, Allardyce, Hodgson and his other pals. So is Keys.
He's got a huge ego which for me sees his play by play turn into colour, Tyler's domain, as much as he can manage. He's awesome in great moments but over cooks really quite mediocre moments as though they're amazing. I remember reading Cloughie's book who stopped watching football whenever Gray commentated.
His analysis, for me anyway is pretty simplistic. Tactically he's more of a dinosaur than his views on women are. We know you think a footballer should play every game Andy but it's not 1985. 4-4-2 isn't the be all and end all, zonal marking is proven to work statistically in the right teams, a director of football may possibly be a thing of the future except in rare cases of genius managers and finally your cliches of "for me, this defender should be busting a gut" (wow, really?) or "I think (with the aid of my gadgets and hindsight) that he should have gone out to the left here instead of shooting, he makes the wrong choice here" - this is the best analyst in the country? I have to listen to this shizzle every week. IMO it's pretty low level.
In the commentary box he's pretty good at play by play but I'm rarely buying into his tactical "insight". He was offered to prove his worth at Everton and bottled it.
Quote from: Horneris on January 26, 2011, 01:15:35 AM
I don't understand half the peoples views on here of Andy as a pundit/commentator.
Whenever i watch sky matches he sees things that no one else sees on the field, he makes remarks that are so far above what you hear from all other commentators and its like he knows whats going to happen before it happens. His analysis is brilliant too.
Fair enough he was a knobhead in these clips and maybe deserves to lose his job (i personally think an apology and a major slap on the wrist would suffice) but questioning his ability to do the job he does??? He is the best out there by a country mile!!!
Mondatoo says he is biased, and HitlerBoshi agrees but who on earth is he biased towards? Who is he supposed to support? I've never heard any biased and being the sad young man i am, i watch almost all of skys televised football games.
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Re: Andy Gray Sacked
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Quote from: jizzemm on January 25, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
Andys sacked and united are loosing 2-0 at blackpool.. this day could not get much better
More love for this pls. 2-0 to Blackpool
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Quote from: Claw75 on January 25, 2011, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: sovietsong on January 25, 2011, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on January 25, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Does anyone else think Andy Gray's reported £2M p.a. salary might have some bearing on these developments?
where are all the leaks coming from?
wales?
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Agree with Rick Trigg and Horner itt
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