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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2005, 02:03:58 AM »

No.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2005, 02:08:40 AM »


300 runners to munch through, bolox to that get a stack or get out!



Not my style, probably why I'm best suited to sit 'n gos.

I'm curious, to what extreme would you take this strategy? How much of the worst of it are you willing to take in your attempts to build a stack early on?
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2005, 02:16:36 AM »

It depends on the field and the buyin tank.

I don't go looking for these situations, but if i find myself in one, with a large field then i am prepared to gamble, the next comp is only 5 mins away so i am more concered with $/hr than ROI

I would have limped the AT myself and just called with the draw.
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2005, 05:34:37 AM »

I don't see how i should have limped here, so many times i've limped in with a good ish hand only for the BB to come in for free and hit 2 pair, maybe the pot sized bet was not so good and got me in a spot i didnt want to be in.But i was trying to shake this guy off MY POT
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2005, 05:43:16 AM »

I don't see how i should have limped here, so many times i've limped in with a good ish hand only for the BB to come in for free and hit 2 pair, maybe the pot sized bet was not so good and got me in a spot i didnt want to be in.But i was trying to shake this guy off MY POT

Once you raise pre flop you have to bet that flop.

There is no need to raise with AT though, if the bb flops 2 pair with rags it missed you anyway.

By raising with AT you drive out the hands you want in, A2-A9, AJ AQ AK will probably come into the pot, which means your reverse implied odds when the A hits are huge. Also what if you get 2 callers behind the flop comes Q72 and you are first to act? You fancy you can take it but have no idea what they have! I don't like getting in raised pots with weak aces in EP.
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2005, 05:51:55 AM »

I don't like getting in raised pots with weak aces in EP.

I never call bets with rag aces (AJ or less) unless i'm very, very short.
A hand from the casino earlier saw a raise from UTG (with AK) and a call from a woman in the SB (with A6), an ace flops and basically the UTG guy milks her for 2/3rds of her stack.
She then says "had to call those bets there with the ace" to which a couple of folks on the table AGREE!!!
I wanted to slap her repeatedly and shout "WTF were you doing?, top pair was NEVER gonna be the hand you wanted in a raised pot!!"
Some people make me laugh.
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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2005, 05:53:24 AM »

If its a rebuy ill call if its a freezeout ill fold and find a better situation, Also dont like to raise much early in torneys because bets dont really buy enough info at this point, id flat call early in a torney with AJ in late pos even on the button, dont really want to mix it up to much at this stage. Plus like Flush said you might get lucky and have others come in with weak aces and think they are good beause no one has raised pre flop. Even if they do and you get out played it dosnt really matter becuase there is so little in the pot anyway.

But later a raise with A10 on the button with one limper is fair enough because there will be chips worth winning in the pot and you are taking the momentum and have position.
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2005, 05:59:00 AM »

Yes as always i see your point guys. sometimes with little time to think you just act, thought it right at the time, as for a weak Ace, i agree, this is my cut off as far as A rag goes maybe i should be looking more to J or Q

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