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« on: February 07, 2011, 01:15:52 PM »

Sorry this is really long, but need to explain everything.
 
Seat 1,2,3 irrelevant
Seat 5 VTight Reg £900
Seat 6 Massive regfish ~£2500
Seat 7 Mitch £1700
Seat 8 Hero is playing ~£1800

Game was playing pretty small, with Mitch and I playing most of the pots, then Regfish turned up and its getting much more heated.

Hero is UTG with   opens to £15, VTight Reg 3bets BTN £45, Regfish and Mitch cold call from the blinds. Hero 4bets to £175 (4bet folding vs the tight 3bettor fwiw), 3bettor folds, fish in the blinds cold call again. lol live poker.

Pot: £570
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 three clubs Regfish bets £300, Mitch makes it £670, Hero?

Given the way I've decided to play this postflop, I've put myself in this tought spot. Mitch and Regfish have played a lot with each other, and something Mitch told me about him and a couple of other reads led me to be 90% confident that Mitch had a complete airball here. Something like   Wink

So in a sense I've just got to work out what Regfish has. I thought both were plausible but much more likely he was betting TT or 99 or 89ss or something because he thought they were good. Mitch reckons that he always checks these hands in those spots where the pot is massive and tries to get to showdown.

But there are very few better hands that Regfish can be betting, I would've thought he'd bet the turn with a J and maybe 44 or 88 (I don't think he peels pre with 44 or 33 though maybe). So it's 88 or a J that he's decided to play really slow.

WWYD? I know the standard line would've been to bet the earlier streets but I don't want to dwell too much on that. I decided to make my hand look like AK  as Mitch knows my range pre has to be very strong given i've 4bet the tightest player on the table. I decided to go for a big street of value on the river and make my hand look as weak as possible and get regfish to payme off, or Mitch to spas.

I don't think it makes a difference to the hand but fwiw I was 100% staked for this game, Mitch knew this, Regfish didn't.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 01:23:01 PM »

im thinking though, can mitch ever actually have an airball here? seems like thin value vs the fish, or a sick merge with like TT where he gets you to fold QQ+ but the fish calls with A8

sick raise if thats wat you did Mitch :p
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 01:23:47 PM »

^^^ that being said I like your line post flop and would prolly call now

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 01:30:56 PM »

im thinking though, can mitch ever actually have an airball here? seems like thin value vs the fish, or a sick merge with like TT where he gets you to fold QQ+ but the fish calls with A8

sick raise if thats wat you did Mitch :p

Don't forget, Mitch plays bad sometimes :p
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 01:40:49 PM »

^^^ that being said I like your line post flop and would prolly call now

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U bet turn?
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 02:06:05 PM »

^^^ that being said I like your line post flop and would prolly call now

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U bet turn?

yh a lot of the time, but really happy to just catch some spazzy bluffs like this
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 02:18:00 PM »

The pot isn't closed yet tho which I don't like
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2011, 02:23:17 PM »

The pot isn't closed yet tho which I don't like

yh, fish jamming is terrible but I think he's never doing it without a boat and he has a boat so infrequently
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2011, 03:15:32 PM »

Who's the spazzy reg fish? Vargas?
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2011, 03:32:31 PM »

Where is this 2/5 game?
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 03:39:34 PM »

Where is this 2/5 game?

LOL, quality.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 04:30:59 PM »

Really can't see Mitch min raise bluffing the fish if he says that he thinks that fish checks 99/TT here
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2011, 05:50:22 PM »

You should give ur impression on the fish and how u had expected him to play hands since this will have a massive impact on how Mitch played his hand.

all in all looks like an easy fold to me. the chance of fish guy not having it PLUS mitch being on siome sik min bluff or value is so much less than u being good.
yer mitches lines makes no sense, even less with his read on the fish but still...

fwiw i think you should bet this turn at least. It seems like a case of pot controlling so much causing more tough situation than it avoids as it is turning your hand face up. My guess is Mitch expects u to pot control a big pair here a lot of the time and this is pretty key to postflop decisons (hint- mitch is a massive station in big pots :-P)
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 06:00:04 PM »

Who's the spazzy reg fish? Vargas?

A guy called Florian. I think he is Italian - late 20s, early 30s probs.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 06:00:36 PM »

Really can't see Mitch min raise bluffing the fish if he says that he thinks that fish checks 99/TT here

he admitted it was a bad bluff. he had the 
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