UKIPT - Very First Hand

[Dubai]

You realise Villain 1 is MORE likely to have the type of hand "you want to get more money in against" ie worse draws, is about to fold when you 3 bet

[Dubai]

It might not be pure fantasy but seems overly optimistic. I mean including every combination of T7os and 75os? Really? Obviously it just so happens we have good equity against these holdings I assume

[skolsuper]

It might not be pure fantasy but seems overly optimistic. I mean including every combination of T7os and 75os? Really? Obviously it just so happens we have good equity against these holdings I assume

Ha, yeah ok maybe that is a bit hopeful, but now I'm the one reminding you that this is level 1 of a live tournament

You realise Villain 1 is MORE likely to have the type of hand "you want to get more money in against" ie worse draws, is about to fold when you 3 bet

Yeah I realise that, but I think by keeping the pot 3-way we really hamstring ourselves on the turn and river wrt getting value when we hit a flush and having to fold river very often when we don't improve.

[Dubai]

High variance poker in possibly the worst field ever assembled for £500 buyin in level 1. I used to do it, and you can check my hendonmob record to see the results. Online if i got it in he would have a set and id make a flush. Live he would have a set and id make a flush and hed make a boat

[baltic_blonde]

(1) Should I reraise the flop?
(2) Should I fold the turn?
(3) Should I bluff the river?

(1) Nope
(2) Not for that bet 
(3) You cant rep anything better than what you have, and you have good showdown value with your T.

good hand imo

+1, agree with above, wp.

[skolsuper]

High variance poker in possibly the worst field ever assembled for £500 buyin in level 1. I used to do it, and you can check my hendonmob record to see the results. Online if i got it in he would have a set and id make a flush. Live he would have a set and id make a flush and hed make a boat

Personally I think that in this spot the extra value is worth the variance, but admittedly that's something that is pretty much impossible to quantify. Then again, if we're bringing hendonmobs into it, I think we has a winner in greeky's contest, wiiiiii

[Dubai]

You can have the hendonmob but Im not letting you dig your way out of this hole!

Cliffs- Keys is wrong because Villain 2 doesnt have the range he assigns, therefore our equity is nowhere near as good as his pokerstove suggests. And all the hands that pokerstove includes that we have good equity against are about to be folded out by villain 1 when we 3 bet.

[Dubai]

Might seem crazy but folding might even be better than 3betting.

[skolsuper]

OK in the interests of balance, here is the worst case scenario stove:

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    29.740%     29.74%    00.00%              2061            0.00   { KcTc }
Hand 1:    70.260%     70.26%    00.00%              4869            0.00   { TT, 77, 55 }

Obv you're saying that this is villain's stacking range, but what realistically do you think villain's flop raising range is? Sets are only 7 combos, so if there's other stuff in there, AT, JJ, 75, nfds and combo draws, we're saying he folds these hands or flats + folds turn which is hugely profitable for us.

[Dubai]

Actually the worst case scenario would be us 3 betting, villain 1 calling, villain 2 shoving, us calling, villain 1 calling.

Villain 1 has the nut flush draw and villain 2 has a set

[pleno1]

3250 and cawl

[skolsuper]

@Dubai: ha, didn't even consider that... 1.7% fwiw, get therrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@Pleno1: yay! finally an ally

[SuuPRlim]

all I know is that if I busted this hand in the worlds softest ever monkey freeze with 100bags ftw in a 600big blind pot then Id feel like a complete mongrel

[skolsuper]

all I know is that if I busted this hand in the worlds softest ever monkey freeze with 100bags ftw in a 600big blind pot then Id feel like a complete mongrel

If you thought it was such incred value then actually playing it might have been a good idea

[The Camel]

Dubai, if this was Super Tuesday on Stars, what would you do?