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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 03:22:09 PM »

Ok no idea what im supposed to say about the huge pots in Ireland, other than hope you won i guess

Daves anaylsis on this thread is wrong, i dont know if he plays high/low- and assume he is a Omaha high coach,  but its definitely wrong. You agreed with him and even said its obviously an easy fold, you are also definitely wrong. I dont mean that to be rude etc, but its really not close

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 03:33:49 PM »

Ok no idea what im supposed to say about the huge pots in Ireland, other than hope you won i guess

Daves anaylsis on this thread is wrong, i dont know if he plays high/low- and assume he is a Omaha high coach,  but its definitely wrong. You agreed with him and even said its obviously an easy fold, you are also definitely wrong. I dont mean that to be rude etc, but its really not close


ok cool. its just opinions etc. i think its a fold but come from a generation were omaha is a nuts ( or close to it game ) and is still how i earn my money. for sure the guy could have A2xx but imo i fold as i could be up against a set in a world of pain with very lttle prospect of winning the high or low. wait for a better chance.
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 03:47:56 PM »

Ok no idea what im supposed to say about the huge pots in Ireland, other than hope you won i guess

Daves anaylsis on this thread is wrong, i dont know if he plays high/low- and assume he is a Omaha high coach,  but its definitely wrong. You agreed with him and even said its obviously an easy fold, you are also definitely wrong. I dont mean that to be rude etc, but its really not close


ok cool. its just opinions etc. i think its a fold but come from a generation were omaha is a nuts ( or close to it game ) and is still how i earn my money. for sure the guy could have A2xx but imo i fold as i could be up against a set in a world of pain with very lttle prospect of winning the high or low. wait for a better chance.

if he has a set (really?)  - then you surely have the draw to the low - so how are you crushed

this guy has A2 like 95% of the time here
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 04:21:50 PM »


donno why everyone gets into huge arguments about totally marginal hands

side pot

board: 9h4d3c
Hand    Equity    Scoops    Wins Hi    Ties Hi    Wins Lo    Ties Lo
ac8cad6s    50.95%    1,729,288    3,410,543    89,861    481,430    126,204
a2**            49.05%    1,624,491    1,883,716    89,861    2,996,286    126,204


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board: 9h4d3c
Hand    Equity    Scoops    Wins Hi    Ties Hi    Wins Lo    Ties Lo
ac8cad6s    33.89%    121,375    241,685    6,888    47,683    14,711
a2**            43.81%    140,202    160,588    10,688    322,640    22,234
****    22.30%    68,976    185,963    5,959    7,613    10,141




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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2011, 04:23:59 PM »

You do need to balance the range a bit with KK76 type hands but even still its a call
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2011, 04:29:24 PM »

Plus the 3rd hand is far more likely to have low blockers than to reduce our high equity
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2011, 04:54:27 PM »

Plus the 3rd hand is far more likely to have low blockers than to reduce our high equity

but if 3rd hand has any pair our equity is considerably reduced

I don't think that any reasonable assumptions are ever going to make calling or folding the mistake of the century.


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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2011, 04:55:53 PM »

Post moar about the Irish cash games mate. Seems super relevent to this pre flop omaha h/l scenario.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2011, 04:57:20 PM »

I think you underestimate how often we have the best low draw and best high hand. Its defo more than 0%, but yeah il stand by what I said, its an easy call when we are getting WAY more than 2-1. We are getting 9-4, so need 30.7% for main pot
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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2011, 06:01:22 PM »

Post moar about the Irish cash games mate. Seems super relevent to this pre flop omaha h/l scenario.
its relevent because in this day and age people are more inclined to say "even if we are behind we caant be far behind so fuck it lets gamble and fuck it." jackie being both chinese and irish gives him the excuse to play any 4 cards and enjoy the ride. If i was playing this hand a lot would depend on my opponents obv. It is becoming more common in both omaha n hi/lo that these days someone shows you the nuts at show down with the 2 cards played and you check out the other 2 cards and they are as relevent to the starting hand as a birthday card and a christmas card
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2011, 06:10:38 PM »

Post moar about the Irish cash games mate. Seems super relevent to this pre flop omaha h/l scenario.
its relevent because in this day and age people are more inclined to say "even if we are behind we caant be far behind so fuck it lets gamble and fuck it." jackie being both chinese and irish gives him the excuse to play any 4 cards and enjoy the ride. If i was playing this hand a lot would depend on my opponents obv. It is becoming more common in both omaha n hi/lo that these days someone shows you the nuts at show down with the 2 cards played and you check out the other 2 cards and they are as relevent to the starting hand as a birthday card and a christmas card

In this day and age? pretty sure people have been playing terrible hands and gambling for years and years...
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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2011, 06:41:49 PM »

Post moar about the Irish cash games mate. Seems super relevent to this pre flop omaha h/l scenario.
its relevent because in this day and age people are more inclined to say "even if we are behind we caant be far behind so fuck it lets gamble and fuck it." jackie being both chinese and irish gives him the excuse to play any 4 cards and enjoy the ride. If i was playing this hand a lot would depend on my opponents obv. It is becoming more common in both omaha n hi/lo that these days someone shows you the nuts at show down with the 2 cards played and you check out the other 2 cards and they are as relevent to the starting hand as a birthday card and a christmas card

In this day and age? pretty sure people have been playing terrible hands and gambling for years and years...
of course they have dave mate. but the amount of guys young n old who are either playing badly or have a gamble is becoming higher and higher. you have always had the  pre historic rocks at one end of the spectrum and the chinese or drug dealers at the other end. but people learn from each other and often believe something is the correct play because they read it on a forum or their mate said its the correct thing to do. prime example is the mis conception you see a lot in comps you hear fools saying "i've gotta call for value now coz there are so many callerss and the pots massive". it makes me piss my pants when their valuye calling hand has 0% chance of  winning even if they used a back jack shoe and ran it a squillion times. howz the fingers. hope you still have one left to keep giving me the bird
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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2011, 06:46:54 PM »

Post moar about the Irish cash games mate. Seems super relevent to this pre flop omaha h/l scenario.
its relevent because in this day and age people are more inclined to say "even if we are behind we caant be far behind so fuck it lets gamble and fuck it." jackie being both chinese and irish gives him the excuse to play any 4 cards and enjoy the ride. If i was playing this hand a lot would depend on my opponents obv. It is becoming more common in both omaha n hi/lo that these days someone shows you the nuts at show down with the 2 cards played and you check out the other 2 cards and they are as relevent to the starting hand as a birthday card and a christmas card

In this day and age? pretty sure people have been playing terrible hands and gambling for years and years...
of course they have dave mate. but the amount of guys young n old who are either playing badly or have a gamble is becoming higher and higher. you have always had the  pre historic rocks at one end of the spectrum and the chinese or drug dealers at the other end. but people learn from each other and often believe something is the correct play because they read it on a forum or their mate said its the correct thing to do. prime example is the mis conception you see a lot in comps you hear fools saying "i've gotta call for value now coz there are so many callerss and the pots massive". it makes me piss my pants when their valuye calling hand has 0% chance of  winning even if they used a back jack shoe and ran it a squillion times. howz the fingers. hope you still have one left to keep giving me the bird

rofl, have got nearly 7 fingers left which is plenty :p
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2011, 06:47:13 PM »

wtf its a $5 internet game. get a life. get a bird. n get out more. jam coz its not the end of the world. prob  just the end of your bankroll
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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2011, 06:47:46 PM »

wtf its a $5 internet game. get a life. get a bird. n get out more. jam coz its not the end of the world. prob  just the end of your bankroll

must be drunk?
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