AK Preflop decision 1/2 live cash

[Whollyflush]

Nothing much to add but follow Smashedagains advice and you won't go far wrong.

[pleno1]

I really would fold pre

[cambridgealex]

i won the hand = i played it well

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[SuuPRlim]

i won the hand = i played it well

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spend it wisely kid x

[kukushkin88]

But you talked about 3betting. Would you not even 3bet AK? Not saying get it in, but to one raise, would you not re(back)raise?

played more aggressive in dec n jan and  found that i was walking out the door having ran AK into a better hand or lost a race. went back to knitting in feb and got 3rd in dtd deepstack. certain styles work for certain players. what you need to do is find your best game and play it. no one plays your game better than you. poker is very much results driven and final tables never are contested by 9 nits or 9 super aggros imo.

There ought to be a minimum level of competence for posting advice in PHA. However you look at this type of post it is short of that level. Add to it the 22 is better than AK heads-up and surely it´s time to take a break from posting flawed thinking and even more flawed cliches itt. Use the thread as the learning facility it is meant to be, especially with people like geeforce posting at the moment the opportunity to learn is huge.

[pleno1]

 

[smashedagain]

But you talked about 3betting. Would you not even 3bet AK? Not saying get it in, but to one raise, would you not re(back)raise?

played more aggressive in dec n jan and  found that i was walking out the door having ran AK into a better hand or lost a race. went back to knitting in feb and got 3rd in dtd deepstack. certain styles work for certain players. what you need to do is find your best game and play it. no one plays your game better than you. poker is very much results driven and final tables never are contested by 9 nits or 9 super aggros imo.

There ought to be a minimum level of competence for posting advice in PHA. However you look at this type of post it is short of that level. Add to it the 22 is better than AK heads-up and surely it´s time to take a break from posting flawed thinking and even more flawed cliches itt. Use the thread as the learning facility it is meant to be, especially with people like geeforce posting at the moment the opportunity to learn is huge.

are you really telling me that you dount know that heads up AK is not beating 22. Although its a flip the 22 wins the contest 52% of the time. My whole point about not  being a fan of races is this. Why when i am the better poker player would i be willing to chuck all my money in on a race when i could have saved a lot of time and just backed red or black. Obv there are times when races become un avoidable and you need to win these to go deep. But if i'm controling the pots and the game then why rely on pre flop luck. The tournies i play are 2 day minmum and mostly 3 or 4 days all in the £300 to £1500 price range and my cash ratio is about 35% over an 18 month period. (was a lot higher prior to dec jan). If i were to willing to chuck it in with AK racing then i'm sure i would not even cash 10% of the time. (i consider a 10% cash ratio aveerage as this is the usual amount paid out in the money) . There is an arguement that if you hold AK and play a flop you dont get paid by QQ when an ace or king hits. This is bollox coz in these games 90% of the players are idiots and cant fold so pay you any way. Same holding QQ v villans AK...no AK on the board and as sure as eggs are eggs idiots are still gonna put all their money in with AK coz its massive innit.Its common sense that mathematically if you race just twice then you are gonna lose one. This thinking of valuing AK as just ace high pre flop works well for satellites even better. I give advice and mentoring to a few people who are all winners in the game. 1 guy has played every single game £300 and above at dtd since last january (19 tournies in total) and has won a seat to 18 of them at 1st or 2nd attempt and never spent more than$90 on any seat. I am not aware of who kukuskin is in the real world but would be suprised to find out if he actually played poker for a living

[kukushkin88]

The point that you are missing is that how AK plays vs 22 is of no interest to anyone, not since Super System 2 was a poker players bible anyway. How the 2 hands play against the range of hands that the villain can reasonably be expected to hold is of interest.

A debate on such a trivially obvious concept is of little use to anyone here, so lets just draw a line under it. Please accept what I wrote in my previous as friendly advice.

gl at the tables I hope your run of success continues.

[smashedagain]

The point that you are missing is that how AK plays vs 22 is of no interest to anyone, not since Super System 2 was a poker players bible anyway. How the 2 hands play against the range of hands that the villain can reasonably be expected to hold is of interest.

A debate on such a trivially obvious concept is of little use to anyone here, so lets just draw a line under it. Please accept what I wrote in my previous as friendly advice.

gl at the tables I hope your run of success continues.

we are not talking about how the two hands PLAY. We were on about all in pre. No play just flipping. Obv i value AK more as hand when playing the game. Small pairs cause pain (ref. Flopping a set of two's in small blind V paul ho).I aint wanting to upset anyone either.

[pleno1]

omg smashedagain MUST be levelling.

[smashedagain]

omg smashedagain MUST be levelling.

no I'm just a bit thick. What does levelling mean. And flaming as well please.

[SuuPRlim]

But if i'm controling the pots and the game then why rely on pre flop luck.

yh, this is a valid point, but in this example someone has bet £102 out of their £180 stack so i reckon the day of pot control are behind us in this hand

[BulldozerD]

Nice long post about avoiding flips etc in tournaments. A bit pointless though seeing as this is a thread about a cash hand where avoiding a flip with potential dead money in the middle would be clear mistake.

Think the bit about posters having a certain level of competence is unnecessary though, people should be encouraged to post.

Back to the hand-I know this is live cash but your initial 3bet is quite chunky-I guess you had already subconsciously committed yourself to the hand. Don't mind either option that much in reality.

[smashedagain]

dave n dozers points are valid. I do tend to get a bit side tracked n moan on. When not at the park, cheeky chimps or playing monsters i have to sit through endless kids tv.

[SuuPRlim]

dave n dozers points are valid. I do tend to get a bit side tracked n moan on. When not at the park, cheeky chimps or playing monsters i have to sit through endless kids tv.

tweenie clock, whhhhhhherrrrrrrrre will it stop?