AK Preflop decision 1/2 live cash

[SuuPRlim]

Just cause im stuck in bed and bored


Hand   Equity   Wins   Ties
asks   49.89%   5,092,608   66,687
22   50.11%   5,114,529   66,687

VS top 10%

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.101%     39.74%    00.36%         530831496      4757730.00   { 22 }
Hand 1:    59.899%     59.54%    00.36%         795250164      4757730.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    59.771%     54.94%    04.83%         380076640     33400274.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    40.229%     35.40%    04.83%         244893628     33400274.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

VS top 25%

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    45.198%     44.76%    00.44%        1526674512     14999340.00   { 22 }
Hand 1:    54.802%     54.36%    00.44%        1854236376     14999340.00   { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    65.397%     63.00%    02.40%        1178007768     44818100.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    34.603%     32.21%    02.40%         602192000     44818100.00   { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

VS any random hand


equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    50.334%     49.39%    00.95%        6215338932    119416020.00  { 22 }
Hand 1:    49.666%     48.72%    00.95%        6131263428    119416020.00   { random }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    67.045%    66.22%    00.83%        5556016860     69221952.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    32.955%     32.13%    00.83%        2695828836     69221952.00   { random }

Obviously this couldn't have been much more of a waste of time but I've been in bed for like 5 days I can live with that

and also
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[smashedagain]

Just cause im stuck in bed and bored


Hand   Equity   Wins   Ties
asks   49.89%   5,092,608   66,687
22   50.11%   5,114,529   66,687

VS top 10%

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.101%     39.74%    00.36%         530831496      4757730.00   { 22 }
Hand 1:    59.899%     59.54%    00.36%         795250164      4757730.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    59.771%     54.94%    04.83%         380076640     33400274.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    40.229%     35.40%    04.83%         244893628     33400274.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

VS top 25%

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    45.198%     44.76%    00.44%        1526674512     14999340.00   { 22 }
Hand 1:    54.802%     54.36%    00.44%        1854236376     14999340.00   { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    65.397%     63.00%    02.40%        1178007768     44818100.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    34.603%     32.21%    02.40%         602192000     44818100.00   { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

VS any random hand


equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    50.334%     49.39%    00.95%        6215338932    119416020.00  { 22 }
Hand 1:    49.666%     48.72%    00.95%        6131263428    119416020.00   { random }

equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    67.045%    66.22%    00.83%        5556016860     69221952.00   { AKs }
Hand 1:    32.955%     32.13%    00.83%        2695828836     69221952.00   { random }

Obviously this couldn't have been much more of a waste of time but I've been in bed for like 5 days I can live with that

and also
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the AK was off suit....quickly

[geeforce1]

But you talked about 3betting. Would you not even 3bet AK? Not saying get it in, but to one raise, would you not re(back)raise?

played more aggressive in dec n jan and  found that i was walking out the door having ran AK into a better hand or lost a race. went back to knitting in feb and got 3rd in dtd deepstack. certain styles work for certain players. what you need to do is find your best game and play it. no one plays your game better than you. poker is very much results driven and final tables never are contested by 9 nits or 9 super aggros imo.

There ought to be a minimum level of competence for posting advice in PHA. However you look at this type of post it is short of that level. Add to it the 22 is better than AK heads-up and surely it´s time to take a break from posting flawed thinking and even more flawed cliches itt. Use the thread as the learning facility it is meant to be, especially with people like geeforce posting at the moment the opportunity to learn is huge.

are you really telling me that you dount know that heads up AK is not beating 22. Although its a flip the 22 wins the contest 52% of the time. My whole point about not  being a fan of races is this. Why when i am the better poker player would i be willing to chuck all my money in on a race when i could have saved a lot of time and just backed red or black. Obv there are times when races become un avoidable and you need to win these to go deep. But if i'm controling the pots and the game then why rely on pre flop luck. The tournies i play are 2 day minmum and mostly 3 or 4 days all in the £300 to £1500 price range and my cash ratio is about 35% over an 18 month period. (was a lot higher prior to dec jan). If i were to willing to chuck it in with AK racing then i'm sure i would not even cash 10% of the time. (i consider a 10% cash ratio aveerage as this is the usual amount paid out in the money) . There is an arguement that if you hold AK and play a flop you dont get paid by QQ when an ace or king hits. This is bollox coz in these games 90% of the players are idiots and cant fold so pay you any way. Same holding QQ v villans AK...no AK on the board and as sure as eggs are eggs idiots are still gonna put all their money in with AK coz its massive innit.Its common sense that mathematically if you race just twice then you are gonna lose one. This thinking of valuing AK as just ace high pre flop works well for satellites even better. I give advice and mentoring to a few people who are all winners in the game. 1 guy has played every single game £300 and above at dtd since last january (19 tournies in total) and has won a seat to 18 of them at 1st or 2nd attempt and never spent more than$90 on any seat. I am not aware of who kukuskin is in the real world but would be suprised to find out if he actually played poker for a living

 if you're never getting ak pf as a FAV dominating hands then you are not 3betting enough. if your are 3betting lots, then 3bet some more, b/c if you cant 3bet to 5bet jam profitably (i assure you in general terms this is more profitable 100bb deep) then you are not putting enough pressure on ppl pf. i am not saying you have to 3bet ak everytime, sometimes i flat and wait for a squeeze behind etc but 98% of the time i am looking to play for stacks.

you obv have your own style, which is fine, but to group ppl that get in ak pf as ppl that just rely of pf luck is more down to the limitations in ur style (sry not trying to attack you here). it works for you right now in soft games (and lowers your variance), but how do you think it would fair if people werent eggy idiots?

[Rupert]

no idea how this thread is still going

[SuuPRlim]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

[smashedagain]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

i must be the other 25% then ..hendonmob profile geeforce?

[geeforce1]

isnt that just my name?

[GreekStein]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

i must be the other 25% then ..hendonmob profile geeforce?

If Geeforce is an online player or a live/online cash player, what difference would his hendon mob make?

Out of interest Jason, how much do you think you've spent on tournaments that are eligible to be shown on THM results since you've been playing poker?


All I know about Geeforce is that he's a Gent.

[smashedagain]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

i must be the other 25% then ..hendonmob profile geeforce?

If Geeforce is an online player or a live/online cash player, what difference would his hendon mob make?

Out of interest Jason, how much do you think you've spent on tournaments that are eligible to be shown on THM results since you've been playing poker?


All I know about Geeforce is that he's a Gent.

i've won seats o 90% of what i played cos.from wsop n irish open down to £300 deepstack. alot of people talk the talk but as for walk the walk they may as well be in a wheel chair

[GreekStein]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

i must be the other 25% then ..hendonmob profile geeforce?

If Geeforce is an online player or a live/online cash player, what difference would his hendon mob make?

Out of interest Jason, how much do you think you've spent on tournaments that are eligible to be shown on THM results since you've been playing poker?


All I know about Geeforce is that he's a Gent.

i've won seats o 90% of what i played cos.from wsop n irish open down to £300 deepstack. alot of people talk the talk but as for walk the walk they may as well be in a wheel chair

huh?

[Rupert]

if its the same guy, geeforce does pretty well on ipoker 5/10 and 10/20. certainly caused me enough problems!  i've never heard of smashedagain

[SuuPRlim]

rofl at Jason calling dave out on his hendon mob

o dear o dear o dear

[kukushkin88]

no idea how this thread is still going

Im pretty sure Im 75% responsible lol

i must be the other 25% then ..hendonmob profile geeforce?

If Geeforce is an online player or a live/online cash player, what difference would his hendon mob make?

Out of interest Jason, how much do you think you've spent on tournaments that are eligible to be shown on THM results since you've been playing poker?


All I know about Geeforce is that he's a Gent.

i've won seats o 90% of what i played cos.from wsop n irish open down to £300 deepstack. alot of people talk the talk but as for walk the walk they may as well be in a wheel chair

Nice to see you took on board what I said about potentially embarrassing posts. This ^^ is probably your worst yet.

[Nit Tendencies]

Jason, you've just made yourself look like a right plank.

I once heard you say "if they were making money playing poker (referring to me and lil dave) then I'd know who they are.." Yet you don't know who Geeforce is, despite him being a well respected British tourney and cash player who has been around for a while and proven himself at both.

"Hendon mob" is a great general guide to someones results, but by no means a measure for how good they are, and using it as a tool to call someone out just proves how ignorant and delusional you are about the poker world and how it works.

Get a job.

[geeforce1]

and why i hate forums

can of worms officially opened