200NL HU

[GreekStein]

I hate his river jam.

[Whollyflush]

I hate his river jam.

yea agreed. Its a really important showdown to see in a 2tabling match, and he has a reasonable pair jamming seems horrific.

[SuuPRlim]

he does rarely have the best hand on the river though.

If he doesn't jam this hand then calling  river would prolly be bad also

TBH he was probly just rolling his face in his keyboard

[pleno1]

so what is peoples opinion on my river call? bad?

[Dubai]

The shove and call are both bad- especially if villain thinks you are on tilt.

[pleno1]

The shove and call are both bad- especially if villain thinks you are on tilt.

So you prefer to jam river then cal?

shove>c/f>>>>>>>c/c?

[strak33]

he does rarely have the best hand on the river though.

If he doesn't jam this hand then calling  river would prolly be bad also

TBH he was probly just rolling his face in his keyboard

Hhahahahaha just perfect.

[SuuPRlim]

yeah shoving river defo better than c/c unless your giving up with your missed Fd's sometimes

[pleno1]

Whats he repping when he jams river though? Jxss is inly hands that beat me except J8. I think he checks almost everything else behind. We had dynamic of 3betting the flop so this would be a great spot OTF. As my value raising range on the flop is (he perceives) small.

[SuuPRlim]

Whats he repping when he jams river though? Jxss is inly hands that beat me except J8. I think he checks almost everything else behind. We had dynamic of 3betting the flop so this would be a great spot OTF. As my value raising range on the flop is (he perceives) small.

Just for clarity, I agree that this is a terrible shove in this vacuum, but I dont think jamming these hands in these spots is bad at all

[pleno1]

Yeah was gd skype discussion, enjoyed it.

[SuuPRlim]

Yeah was gd skype discussion, enjoyed it.

+1 I think i'm far too PLO'd to be any use in these NL discussions when you got JP pleno dubai ITT

[GreekStein]

Some really good discussion in pha atm

[pleno1]

dont c/r w/a8 kids.

Full Tilt Poker Game #28954685954: Table Hart (heads up) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:04:19 ET - 2011/03/12
Seat 1: W1NN1ETHEP00H ($178.30)
Seat 2: pads1161 ($100)
pads1161 posts the small blind of $0.50
W1NN1ETHEP00H posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
pads1161 raises to $3
W1NN1ETHEP00H calls $2
*** FLOP *** [ ]
W1NN1ETHEP00H checks
pads1161 bets $5
W1NN1ETHEP00H has 15 seconds left to act
W1NN1ETHEP00H raises to $16.20
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 raises to $36.75
W1NN1ETHEP00H raises to $175.30, and is all in
pads1161 calls $60.25, and is all in
W1NN1ETHEP00H shows [As ]
pads1161 shows [ ]
Uncalled bet of $78.30 returned to W1NN1ETHEP00H
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
W1NN1ETHEP00H shows two pair, Eights and Threes
pads1161 shows two pair, Nines and Threes
pads1161 wins the pot ($199.50) with two pair, Nines and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $200 | Rake $0.50
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: W1NN1ETHEP00H (big blind) showed [As ] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 2: pads1161 (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($199.50) with two pair, Nines and Threes

[cambridgealex]

if you had K8 instead of 99 would you stack off/play it the same?